Gloss It review done by Polished Bliss!

[Junebug]

Back to Big Al's point: "i wish more companies would sell small samples (like optimum) so if they didn't like it, then it wouldn't be a big loss..."



I'd add the FK and DodoJuice have sampler kits too. I, like most detailers are always looking to see if maybe there's something a little better. But, you have to factor in price and availabilty too. If, like Al pointed out, you want to try something new and you can only get a quart or gallon size and you think you may be left with 95% of it sitting around - that keeps me from trying a lot of the flavor of the month products.

 

[Cleaning Fool]

I'd really like to try some of the Gloss-It products, but because of the way it's being marketed (overly hyped on forums), I'm totally turned off by it all together (wether it's good or not). The same thing happeded with Zaino when all the Zealots constantly argued about how great their products were. (I've recently noticed Zaino people calming down dramatically and have since started using and like it alot.) When there's this much controversy over a product line, many can't help to fall on the side of pessimism rather than taking on the challenge of trying it with a free mind. David – I use to really like studing your Click N Brags, but ever since you’ve totally switched to Gloss-It, I can’t help to not to find it becoming really spammy. I also can’t help not to notice that on practically every detail related forum, you’re on there pumping up Gloss-It products exclusively. Don’t you think it’s a bit much to focus this much energy on 1 product line without having people think you could have ulterior motifs? Can you blame them? Why else would somebody take on this level of a crusade to get this product name out unless they’re benefiting in one way or another. Makes me refer back to what the owner of Autopia DavidB has mentioned:

Yeah David, I can understand being turned off by "Zealots" and so on. But I just don't let that nonsense sway me one way or the other about my product selection. If I said 5 years ago "Boy those Zaino guys are over the top and I just don't like em so Im not buying Zaino." Essentially you are saying guys you have never met, typing from a keyboard from who knows where, is dictating to me what I'm going to use. See, I just don't get that. Who cares whats said on a forum, if its good, Im going to use it, regardless if there are some young bucks typing over the top, immature posts. Id bet there is a lot of people on Autopia who won't use a product because they got upset over a post or two, which I refuse to do. Not a sermon, just a thought.

 

[imported_Picus]

How old are you Kevin?

30. I'm sure you guys are both as old or older than me. Before you take what I said personally, I wasn't referring to you. Keep reading and I am sure you'll understand what I meant.

I always enjoy when a 3rd party chimes in on threads such as this one to make a comment such as that. Its resolves nothing and in turn probably just fuels the fire. Yes, we get it.... Arguing (although we are not actually arguing) on the internet is stupid and usually leads nowhere but in all honesty I feel as I think others do as well that some things needed to be cleared up...and still need to be cleared up in regard to a certian product line and its owner. This thread has not gotten out of hand and if you think this thread is "highschool" you should really look at what people are saying first and then look at your own statement, because so far thats the only "highschool" thing I see here.

Right. Take a step back and look at what you're saying. You're telling a grown man on the internet that he said something because another grown man let you take a peek at private messages the first guy sent him. This doesn't strike you as juvenile?



It seems like this is sort of getting resolved, and I am glad. This isn't the first thread in the last few days where members have been accusing each other of being liars (or were just being petty).



So, back on topic. Who gets Gloss It in Canada?

 

[bryan]

So, back on topic. Who gets Gloss It in Canada? [/QUOTE]



No one as of yet, I may get some to try, I could send you a sample if I decide on trying it

 

[dsms]

Of course he did, that is why I called them right after the owner called me.



The owner of the company did not mention you at all.



What I sense here is that there is an opportunity to discredit some very good dealers on this forum. For either not wanting to try a product due to conversations with the owner of the company, not having the time to try the products yet or maybe even they found the products to be average.

Bryan, im not trying to and never have discredited you or your work. In actuality I was in a way complimenting you when I told Rich about the work you do and that you would be the type of guy that he should want using his products, just as I felt that way towards Clark. I thought of about 5 names in a minute of people IMO who were just a cut above the already talented detailers on this forum, and you happened to be one of them. If that was anyway uncalled for or unnecessary than I am sorry for the call you received from Rich.



And again to David Fermani and anyone else who feels this way.. I am not "pumping" those products. Its no different than me saying "Zaino Z2pro looks super wet on silver" or "M105 is just the best compound I have ever used". Nobody would consider statements like that to be spammy. Now if I discredited other products to promote gloss it instead, than yes it would be considered spammy. But please dont mistake comparing to discrediting, as in I compared the gloss shampoo to Zaino Z7 and said I liked one more than the other, that in no way means I think Zaino Z7 is a bad shampoo as its still one of my favorites. Also it seems as if I recommend a gloss it product to someone here or on another forum ASKING for a recommendation that I am promoting or spamming, this just seems unfair. If I use a product and know how it works thoroughly and feel it gives good results I see no problem in recommending it to others.

 

[gmblack3]

Bryan, im not trying to and never have discredited you or your work. In actuality I was in a way complimenting you when I told Rich about the work you do and that you would be the type of guy that he should want using his products, just as I felt that way towards Clark. I thought of about 5 names in a minute of people IMO who were just a cut above the already talented detailers on this forum, and you happened to be one of them. If that was anyway uncalled for or unnecessary than I am sorry for the call you received from Rich.

How many other names of detailers have you given to the owner of that company that you have seen here? So basically you used this forum to spam me and others to the owner of a detailing product line? :nixweiss



No, I do not appreciate that at all.



So let me see if I have this all figured out.



You have a friend who is the owner of a detailing product line.



Your friend asks you for the names of detailers so that he can get maximum exposure for his product line?



You come to autopia and gather the names of detailers who you think would benefit your friend's company the most.



You give the names to your friend (owner of a detailing product company.)



The owner of the company calls or contacts these detailers, but does not say that you told him to call. The owner of the detailing product company gives the names of other detailers on the forum as who said for him to call.

 

[dsms]

How many other names of detailers have you given to the owner of that company that you have seen here? So basically you used this forum to spam me and others to the owner of a detailing product line? :nixweiss



No, I do not appreciate that at all.



So let me see if I have this all figured out.



You have a friend who is the owner of a detailing product line.



Your friend asks you for the names of detailers so that he can get maximum exposure for his product line?



You come to autopia and gather the names of detailers who you think would benefit your friend's company the most.



You give the names to your friend (owner of a detailing product company.)



The owner of the company calls or contacts these detailers, but does not say that you told him to call. The owner of the detailing product company gives the names of other detailers on the forum as who said for him to call.

I believe your reading into this quite a bit. First off please do not make it seem as if my sole purpose on Autopia is to spam and that I come on here to "gather" names of detailers. Being as I have been here for over a year now and contribute to this forum and many others daily posting write ups, commenting on others work and offering help where I can. All I said was that guy like yourself is the type you want using your products (mainly because of your paint correction skills and the fact that you often choose a sealant for LSP) Rich noticed that a few inexperienced detailers who used the products posted reviews about how they did not work, this would be fine but the problem was that these people he later found out were using the products totally incorrectly. Its like a novice photographer saying his new dSLR takes blurry photos. A good way I thought to prove to others that a product works is to let some real professionals test it and give some feed back..and if you used the product correctly and found it not to work or no reason to switch than whats the big deal, it would have been free after all. Im sorry if its so offensive to you that the owner of a company decided to call you to see if you would like to try his products. As Bob said before he recieved a call from Rich, and as anybody would be he was skeptical. All he did was try the products and found that he liked them. You give the impression that I gave your name to a telemarketer who badgers you constantly while at work. It was 1 phone call which did not go well. So let that be the end of it. FWIW a simple "phone call" was how Clark got to testing the products and now he uses them in his details. I meant no harm to you in referring you to Rich and im sorry things went sour between you.

 

[gmblack3]

I believe your reading into this quite a bit. First off please do not make it seem as if my sole purpose on Autopia is to spam and that I come on here to "gather" names of detailers. Being as I have been here for over a year now and contribute to this forum and many others daily posting write ups, commenting on others work and offering help where I can. All I said was that guy like yourself is the type you want using your products (mainly because of your paint correction skills and the fact that you often choose a sealant for LSP) Rich noticed that a few inexperienced detailers who used the products posted reviews about how they did not work, this would be fine but the problem was that these people he later found out were using the products totally incorrectly. Its like a novice photographer saying his new dSLR takes blurry photos. A good way I thought to prove to others that a product works is to let some real professionals test it and give some feed back..and if you used the product correctly and found it not to work or no reason to switch than whats the big deal, it would have been free after all. Im sorry if its so offensive to you that the owner of a company decided to call you to see if you would like to try his products. As Bob said before he recieved a call from Rich, and as anybody would be he was skeptical. All he did was try the products and found that he liked them. You give the impression that I gave your name to a telemarketer who badgers you constantly while at work. It was 1 phone call which did not go well. So let that be the end of it. FWIW a simple "phone call" was how Clark got to testing the products and now he uses them in his details. I meant no harm to you in referring you to Rich and im sorry things went sour between you.

I never said that was your sole purpose for being here. You yourself said that you gave the owner of the detailing product line 5 names of memebers here. So I am just going by what you said here.



There are other members here who know the owners of detailing product companies. None of them feel the need to abuse the privilige that they have of being a member here. None of them give a list of 5 members that they think will help out a company.



I do feel as I was badgered by a very poor sales pitch full of lies. Lies about who told him to call me. Lies about who uses his products. Lies about how those other detailers just LOVE his products. Lies about how often he speaks to these other detailers. Lies about how long he has known these other detailers. The more I questioned the lies I was being told, the bigger the lies got. If you go back and read my thread, you will see that other detailers also had received calls that where similar in nature.



Bob and yourself felt the need to drag me into threads where you both specifically named me. All the while I have tried to maintain a professional attitude about this whole matter by never mentioning publically the name or company of the person I spoke with that day.

 

[autoconcierge]

Again...........



If you are having success with your current product line or combination there of continue on course,I use a wide array of products to get the results I need,the only reason I will endorse anyone's line is because I have vetted the stuff for MYSELF and know it works this thread needs to end time to move on,as I stated in an earlier post Todd and I talked for over an hour last night and cleared the air. Let's find some common ground and agree to disagree if need be but enough is enough there is too much he said she said going on which accomplishes nothing.

 

[fergnation]

Even though this has been kind of fun to read it has givin me peace of mind on the decision to close up shop and work exclusively on one car collection. Sometimes I miss the interraction with customers and seeing their responses upon picking up their vehicles. But often I see the parts of this business on here that I don't miss.



All I know as of right now is that everyone in this discussion are fantastic detailers all in different parts of the country. He said she said arguments usually fizzle out pretty quickly and I expect that to happen. As for gloss it!, the posts have kind of turned me off also. This past summer, I had a car in all but a couple of the Concours d Elegance shows. Winning best of show 5 times. I literally have boxes full of samples due to the fact that manuf. want their products on the winning cars. I don't change what is working unless I see something that catches my eye. Usually, that comes from respected detailers that are not endorsed by those products. I never go out and get the newest thing!! I have no need to. If I have seen a product that seems to be working well for the masses, then I will break out the CC just like anyone else. But one thing for certain, the so called demonstrations and comparisons on this and other sites do nothing for me.



Peace

 

[autoconcierge]

Fergnation I can respect how you feel,it can be frustrating picking thru the b.s. on opinions of this or that.We all have a different system for going about getting vehicles looking thier best,and yes if possible getting samples from a company allows someone the option of not spending money on a product that might really suck and I have lot's of old product around that fits in that catagory.What happens sometimes unless you are a huge company like Megiuars for example it is not always feasable financially to send out samples to everyone who would like one.



This is where the detailing boards can help or hurt product lines based upon the opinions of top pro's around the country who can really tell if something works or not,but as we saw in this thread opinions vary and can be heated(lol)but the information that can be gleaned in the internet age is ultimately helpfull.