gloss factors...

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Envious Eric

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while detailing a 73 repainted single stage van yesterday, I noticed a couple things...



rotary and soft foam are amazing, rotary and purple foam wool pads are outstanding, and the time savings is unbeatable.



what I don't completely comprehend is where the amazing gloss comes from. Is it the rotary?, the pads? the polish? There is no way I have ever achieved the gloss levels like yesterday.



process:

PFW/83 600-1200-600

LC blue/80 1000



the gloss levels were better than I have ever ended up with before, except for a black JAG that I did a while back.



from what I could tell everything looked good to go so I then glazed it, no lsp (I want to see how long one grand omega glaze lasts, and also how long liquid luster lasts on the roof (this stuff eats oxidation up)



I will now continue to use the rotary and appropriate combo on every car, finishing down with the red pad and FPII on the softer paints (black BMW saturday).
 
toyotaguy said:
while detailing a 73 repainted single stage van yesterday, I noticed a couple things...



rotary and soft foam are amazing, rotary and purple foam wool pads are outstanding, and the time savings is unbeatable.



what I don't completely comprehend is where the amazing gloss comes from. Is it the rotary?, the pads? the polish? There is no way I have ever achieved the gloss levels like yesterday.



process:

PFW/83 600-1200-600

LC blue/80 1000



the gloss levels were better than I have ever ended up with before, except for a black JAG that I did a while back.



from what I could tell everything looked good to go so I then glazed it, no lsp (I want to see how long one grand omega glaze lasts, and also how long liquid luster lasts on the roof (this stuff eats oxidation up)



I will now continue to use the rotary and appropriate combo on every car, finishing down with the red pad and FPII on the softer paints (black BMW saturday).
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I'm going to agree with BigJim and say it's probably the quality of the paint. Your detailing work just brought out the natural awesomeness of a really good paint job (if what I am assuming is correct). A good paint job, with a good wetsand/compound afterwards makes all the difference in terms of gloss and reflectivity. I'd love to see pics. Here is a car I work on that has one of the better paint jobs I've personally seen and the gloss is unreal in person.



http://gtaindetail.com/pics/cuda073006/m.jpg
 
Pics arent the best, time of day, angles, whatever...still need to learn to adjust the settings on my own instead of manual



here are a couple pics...the van looks a lot better in person with more depth and gloss



VwBus014.jpg


VwBus016.jpg


VwBus012.jpg




and this was the whole reason for the reconditioning...body shops never seem to take the time to do things right...I have bailed out this shop on a couple of occasions now fixing their crappy detail work, but good body work...guess that's what its a body shop and not a detail shop!



VwBus003.jpg


VwBus001.jpg
 
The polishing oils in M80 seem to soak into SS and help the gloss factor.



Otherwise, there is just something about properly polishes SS red paint that just can't be beat.
 
thats the singlestage paint boy looks good when done right. single stage can be amazing before and after photos looks great man
 
KnuckleBuckett said:
.........Is it just me or are there a bunch of buffer trails?
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Yeah, because the last two shots are the before pictures:
.....and this was the whole reason for the reconditioning...
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That sure is a nice old VW Microbus and a good red SS paint job does look great..... good job toyotaguy!
 
bufferbarry said:
thats the singlestage paint boy looks good when done right. single stage can be amazing before and after photos looks great man
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People are talking very often about this "single stage paint" ... "hard clear" .... "soft clear" .... etc etc...



How can you know that ?

Is there a chart naming every car/kind of paint or clear ?



For example, i have a 2004 dodge SRT-4 ...

single stage paint ?

"multi" stage paint ?

hard clear ?

soft clear ?



How you know that ?

:wall:confused:
 
resek said:
People are talking very often about this "single stage paint" ... "hard clear" .... "soft clear" .... etc etc...



How can you know that ?

Is there a chart naming every car/kind of paint or clear ?



For example, i have a 2004 dodge SRT-4 ...

single stage paint ?

"multi" stage paint ?

hard clear ?

soft clear ?



How you know that ?

:wall:confused:
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There is no guide. Generally it is easy to find out if your car is single stage or clear coated; the year, make, and model are the first hint. If it's a late model car odds are good it's clear coated - there are only a few modern single stage cars. If you want to test in person take a microfiber with any compound on it, rub a small area - if the paint stains the towel it's single stage (or in very rare cases tinted clear). If not, it's cleared.



As for soft and hard paint, that's just based on experience. Some makes/models "generally" have hard or soft paint, but there is no hard rule.
 
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