Glazes after paint correction

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bswombaugh

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Do any of you guys typically use any type of glaze after a paint correction and before the LSP? I have corrected quite a few vehicles over the past few years and only tried a glaze on a few. I honestly do not think I could really tell much of a difference if any at all on the ones that I applied it to. If the paint has been polished correctly, does a glaze really add anything that an LSP wouldn't add ? I hear people making claims that it amps up the shine even on freshly polished paint. Whats your thoughts?

I do realize that on an uncorrected car that a glaze can mask some swirls and maybe increase the gloss. I know that it has its purpose. I can testify to that on my own black car when using PB BH. I have also used the CG Acrylic Shine.
 
I will use Black Hole in certain situations even after polishing. I've found it to not only add depth to dark colors, but it fills defects that a 1 step might not completely remove. I'll also use it on thin paint that isn't safe to do any aggressive polishing on.
 
mrclean81 said:
I will use Black Hole in certain situations even after polishing. I've found it to not only add depth to dark colors, but it fills defects that a 1 step might not completely remove. I'll also use it on thin paint that isn't safe to do any aggressive polishing on.
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That is spot on to what I was thinking. I've been in situations where a one step was all that was nesisary ( as per the clients wants and needs ) even though I want to do more. The glaze will add depth and gloss to properly polished paint, and in some cases it is nice to have it fill in some miner stuff that correction wasn't achieved on. You can achieve amazing combinations. Especially when used in the same system. For example I'd use blackfire gloss enhancing polish/glaze with its sister products that are designd to be used with each other. I just did a '14 veloster in black with the wet ice over fire combo, and it was nothing short of amazing! I did do only one panel including the glaze just to see if there would be a differance. Although very very minor depth was added :inspector:with that panel there was a differance. Or maybe it was just me? I hope that helps. :rockon
 
mrclean81 said:
I will use Black Hole in certain situations even after polishing. I've found it to not only add depth to dark colors, but it fills defects that a 1 step might not completely remove. I'll also use it on thin paint that isn't safe to do any aggressive polishing on.
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I will only add that Black Hole is amazing! Read our glazes shoot out.
 
For a glaze after correction my favorite was (Denase) Wet Glaze 2.0
It is a polymer and could be used under and over a sealant or a wax.
Not much on the filling side but it added a gloss, slickness and depth.
 
Thanks for the responses guys. I will give the BH another shot on my next correction. Does the Black Hole seem to play alright as a base for use with most all sealants ? My favorite sealant is Duragloss 105.
 
BH has saved my butt however it was on my own car. The only way I could see a pro using the glaze was if the client did not want to pay for full correction or it was not safe to continue to polish the paint due to lack of Clear Coat.

I would be annoyed if I paid big bucks for a correction and discovered the detailer used a glaze.

I think BH looks great and I used it a ton before I took a class on polishing and learned how to fully remove MM and swirls and finish down properly. I believe that a glaze will diminish the durability of any LSP based on my own experience with both Nubas and Sealants. I am quite sure it would be the same with coatings but I have never tried it myself.

I am not knocking glazes, as I have said I have used them by self (Black Hole) specifically but they have their place and their limitations.
 
The point that was not clear here is that if you apply something to the bare, clean, corrected to whatever level paint, and then apply your LSP after this product, how long is this glaze, etc., going to hold on before it drops off and takes your LSP with it?
Dan F
 
Stokdgs said:
The point that was not clear here is that if you apply something to the bare, clean, corrected to whatever level paint, and then apply your LSP after this product, how long is this glaze, etc., going to hold on before it drops off and takes your LSP with it?
Dan F
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What you are saying makes a lot of since. Kinda of like building a brick house on a sandy foundation. I wonder if anyone has ever did any controlled testing on LSP durability with/without a glaze as a base ?
 
Black Hole applied by PC with a finishing pad on low working well into the paint, will give you the POP on the finish
 
My Thoughts...

A "Glaze" has two functions - Fill and/or gloss enhancement

FILL:
The purpose is to hide imperfections. This may be due to wanting a "quick fix" or that the paint has been corrected too often.

GLOSS:
The purpose is to add to the "wet look" of the finish. In this case you are seeking to achieve depth, gloss, warmth and shine.

LONGEVITY:
IMHO most good glazes may last up to a month. If applied as a "fill" first step, then adhesion longevity is the glaze to the paint.
 
bswombaugh said:
Thanks for the responses guys. I will give the BH another shot on my next correction. Does the Black Hole seem to play alright as a base for use with most all sealants ? My favorite sealant is Duragloss 105.
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Yep

There is only one sealant that it didn't play nice for me, and that wasn't the one
 
Merlin said:
For a glaze after correction my favorite was (Denase) Wet Glaze 2.0
It is a polymer and could be used under and over a sealant or a wax.
Not much on the filling side but it added a gloss, slickness and depth.
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+1 still have a case, love it!
 
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