Gas vs. milk?

gmblack3a said:
I belong to "I used to have one" now I belong to "the new plan won't get me shiat" :)
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And I belong to the "I just got my last unemployment check and now I have to dip into my IRA" club, after six months out of work, few interviews, and not only no decent offers, no crappy offers either. The Detroit area is going to hell in a handcart, and my twenty-five years experience and a degree aren't worth sh*t here.



Now with gas prices skyrocketing, along with milk, meat, and other staples, and the rest of the nation economy spiraling to a crash, on God knows where this is going to lead to, and when this levels off or bottoms out.
 
Len_A said:
And I belong to the "I just got my last unemployment check and now I have to dip into my IRA" club
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If it makes you feel any better, I was part of that club too (except I depleted, not just dipped into, my 401k). Now I've graduated to the "I have a stubborn, defiant, elderly parent that needs 24/7 constant care and how the heck am I even going to get back in the workforce when I have all these responsibilities that needs to be taken care of at home."
 
3.50/gallon milk further pushes me to drink Organic.



Oil/Gas, well......My civic gets 35 city/47 Highway...Gas could be 4.50/gallon I could care less.
 
This is from a Chevron dealer:

Politicians (primarily but not exclusively left-wing Democrats) and environmentalist wackos have destroyed the free market in motor fuels in the United States and as a result have severely restricted supplies. Diesel cars and trucks have gotten a lot more popular in recent years as result of escalating fuel prices because they get better mileage. In a free market oil companies would respond by building additional refineries to produce diesel fuel. In America today, it is absolutely impossible to acquire all the permits necessary to build a motor fuel refinery (unless its ethanol). There have been no new refineries built in United States of America that produce either diesel fuel or gasoline in the last 30 years. We are now in a situation where, in addition to importing almost two thirds of the oil necessary to keep this country running, we currently import 13% of the refined gasoline and diesel that this nation consumes every day.



Diesel consumption is rising faster than gasoline consumption. Our refineries are maxed out and we are now relying on foreign countrys'refineries to keep up with our demand. As long as we keep electing Democrats who keep appointing left wing judges willing to block or stop construction of new refineries because environmental groups file endless requests for environmental impact studies, we will never again build new refineries, nuclear or conventional power plants, or the updated power grids that this nation desperately needs

to replace the half-century old antique grid that currently delivers electricity to all of our homes.



You think diesel is expensive today? You ain't seen nothing yet! After four years of an Obama or Clinton presidency, you will long for the days when your electricity bills, water bills, and motor fuel prices were what they are today."



After reading this I'd like to have a glass of milk but I'm out and I have to drive to get it. You just can't win.:aww:
 
jetset4me said:
This is from a Chevron dealer:

Politicians (primarily but not exclusively left-wing Democrats) and environmentalist wackos have destroyed the free market in motor fuels in the United States and as a result have severely restricted supplies. Diesel cars and trucks have gotten a lot more popular in recent years as result of escalating fuel prices because they get better mileage. In a free market oil companies would respond by building additional refineries to produce diesel fuel. In America today, it is absolutely impossible to acquire all the permits necessary to build a motor fuel refinery (unless its ethanol). There have been no new refineries built in United States of America that produce either diesel fuel or gasoline in the last 30 years. We are now in a situation where, in addition to importing almost two thirds of the oil necessary to keep this country running, we currently import 13% of the refined gasoline and diesel that this nation consumes every day.



Diesel consumption is rising faster than gasoline consumption. Our refineries are maxed out and we are now relying on foreign countrys'refineries to keep up with our demand. As long as we keep electing Democrats who keep appointing left wing judges willing to block or stop construction of new refineries because environmental groups file endless requests for environmental impact studies, we will never again build new refineries, nuclear or conventional power plants, or the updated power grids that this nation desperately needs

to replace the half-century old antique grid that currently delivers electricity to all of our homes.



You think diesel is expensive today? You ain't seen nothing yet! After four years of an Obama or Clinton presidency, you will long for the days when your electricity bills, water bills, and motor fuel prices were what they are today."



After reading this I'd like to have a glass of milk but I'm out and I have to drive to get it. You just can't win.:aww:
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Once again, "left wing democrats" are responsible for bad business decisions and throw in some Clinton bashing since Teddy is no longer their favorite whipping boy. This is the typical scare tactic to shift blame. It is kinda of funny that the woes we have now are solely part of the Bush legacy.



Congress passed Bush's Energy Plan (written by the energy companies) and look at us know. The mortgage crisis was created by greedy financial companies loaning money to people that could not pay it back...you know the Bailey Building and Loan.



Gas prices are soaring in part because we are not the only greedy people on the planet (China wants a piece of that action) and the dollar sinking (oil is sold is dollars so to make up the shortfall in loss they want a higher premium).
 
Bunky said:
Once again, "left wing democrats" are responsible for bad business decisions and throw in some Clinton bashing since Teddy is no longer their favorite whipping boy. This is the typical scare tactic to shift blame. It is kinda of funny that the woes we have now are solely part of the Bush legacy.



Congress passed Bush's Energy Plan (written by the energy companies) and look at us know. The mortgage crisis was created by greedy financial companies loaning money to people that could not pay it back...you know the Bailey Building and Loan.



Gas prices are soaring in part because we are not the only greedy people on the planet (China wants a piece of that action) and the dollar sinking (oil is sold is dollars so to make up the shortfall in loss they want a higher premium).
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Well said. Let's also not forget that what the Clinton administration (and the environmentalists) gets blamed for, in "destroy(ing) the free market in motor fuels in the United States", was done by EPA regulation, which, if the Bush administration wanted to, could have undone in the first year of their first term, by executive order. They didn't. The hodgepodge of regionally blended gasoline helps exacerbate an already inefficient distribution system, and this helps contribute to oil company profits (huge profits) by adding multiples of premiums on premiums of price increases. You think there's any other reason that wholesale oil prices double in eight years, and Exxon-Mobil profits quadruple?



I don't give a damn how a person is "bent" politically - this is what you get for electing an oil man and his ilk to the White House, and putting Congress in the hands of his allies for the first five or six of the last eight years.
 
Let's try not to let this thread spin into a "left vs. right" battle with all the ad hominem and invective that usually ensues . . . Down that path lies one of these:



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"I don't give a damn how a person is "bent" politically - this is what you get for electing an oil man and his ilk to the White House, and putting Congress in the hands of his allies for the first five or six of the last eight years. "





I think they are trying to make as much money, now, before new technology, ethanol, hybrids etc and before some regulation comes into play, new President maybe.
 
I'm lucky...My significant other...Drinking milk gives her gas.



Oh...wait a minute...maybe I'm not so lucky.
 
I do not think gas prices are high enough. In my area, I see little change in behavior. It used to be when there was a spike people actually seem to respond by car pooling, etc. However, it has been high for long enough that people have accepted it and life is back to normal.
 
Bunky said:
I do not think gas prices are high enough. In my area, I see little change in behavior. It used to be when there was a spike people actually seem to respond by car pooling, etc. However, it has been high for long enough that people have accepted it and life is back to normal.
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Boo! Hiss!!! :angry



Damn, I can't believe you actually said that!! :hairpull Gas price increases are killing us, and a big contributor to the sharp increases in the prices of food. Shame on you for even joking like that, if it was a joke!!!:(
 
NSXTASY said:
3.50/gallon milk further pushes me to drink Organic.



Oil/Gas, well......My civic gets 35 city/47 Highway...Gas could be 4.50/gallon I could care less.
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I miss my civic. :(

Had an 05 that avg's like 39mpg on the hwy, at 70mph, with the A/C on. Oh, and sipping on regular gas vs premium sure was nice.
 
Glad that you got a chuckle out of that. In fact, the wife just brought in a carton of milk. I didn't ask the price, though.:har:
 
The good news (If any, and it doesnt involve the the true commodity here), milk prices will be falling due to an overabundance of cows.........LMAO, Im serious.......

Dont we have a surplus of gasoline also? I could have sworn they talked about it on the news Tuesday..........
 
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