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I'm ready to rid my Queen of swirls. My GN (black paint) show quality paint job is 3 years old. It still has marks from the original shop buffing. I've been trying to hide the swirls because I havn't had the guts to try get rid of them. Well now I have the PC technique down pat from using it on my wifes car and work truck. I really want to start all over again with my Gn and rid the swirls and make her simply stunning!

It has Spies Heckler Paint.(which seems a little soft to me.) The swirls aren't bad but they really show in direct sun light, mostly holograms from the shop buffing.

OK...... I have:

IP

FP

SSR2.5

1ZPP

AIO

For Pads:

LC white, yellow, orange & black



I know I'm going to try out EX topped with Souveran for my LSP.



What polish should I start with and with what pad?

and PC speed?

I'm a little nervous with black paint.
 
Is it clear coated?



I would start with the 1Z PP and a polishing pad since you said the paint was kinf od soft. If that doesn't work, step up to a more aggressive pad/polish, or both.



Use speed 6 for your polishing. There's no reason not to keep it on 5. All that's going to do is make you polish longer.
 
I would start with FP on a polishing pad. If that doesn't work step up the product aggresiveness on a polishing pad. If that doesn't work then I would use a more aggresive pad. Then step down the pad and product aggresiveness. Start with a small panel and polish it. Then inspect your work either with a good light or in the sun. If you achieved the results you were looking for then finish the car. If you didn't get the results you wanted then try more aggressive products and pads.

Good luck and we want to see some pictures:)
 
It is Clear coated.

I was thinking 1ZPP as well.

If I were to progree to something stronger would I go to a stronger polish or stick with same polish and use a more agressive pad?
 
I dunno, if i have bad swirls i always reach for DACP and the orange(LC) pad.



If the swirls were not as bad, but still more than slight marring, i would reach for DACP and a white pad.



Post a pic in direct sun, people here can say what to use without going through the pains of working up the ladder.
 
*I* would try IP w/ polishing pad (move up as necessary) and follow with FP w/ polishing pad. I've had outstanding results with that combo.



I work IP on 5-6 until almost dry. I work FP on 5 until almost dry.
 
Glad I could help.

I do step up product before pad. I don't know if that is the accepted way of polishing or not, it is working for me. I guess that the reason that I like to do it that way is, I feel comfortable adding a more aggressive polish to a pad and I am not yet experienced enough to look at the paint and say that "X, Y and then Z will fix it." I try and use the least aggressive steps first. I am sure that some of the polishing Guru's will chime in and we will find out if my way is OK or not. :)

I was also under the impression that your GN isn't really that bad.



The swirls aren't bad but they really show in direct sun light, mostly holograms from the shop buffing.
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So you might not need a very aggressive approach to making it really shine.
 
ZaneO said:
*I* would try IP w/ polishing pad (move up as necessary) and follow with FP w/ polishing pad. I've had outstanding results with that combo.



I work IP on 5-6 until almost dry. I work FP on 5 until almost dry.
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I've been reading alot on that approach on here as well. Its seems to be a very successful technique.
 
It has served me well on black cars :)



This car received IP, FP, and Wolfgang:



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I'm a little surprised that the S-H paint seems soft. They used S-H on all the repairs to our Audis and it's almost as hard as the (*very* hard) S-H factory paint. :nixweiss Anyhow....



Yeah, see if the FP will do it and if not step up *product*. No real point in using an aggressive pad with a mild product. FWIW, my order of progression would be FP/polishing, PI-III MG or 1Z PP polishing, PI-III RC/polishing. If that didn't get it I'd switch to 4" pads. If that didn't do it, *then* I'd go to a harsher pad (and I'd still use 4" ones). I realize that you probably have the 6/5" pads...I'd steer clear of the yellow one, doesn't sound like you'd need that for this job.



Note: the only reason I didn't mention IP or the SSR stuff is that I have no experience with these products. So just substitute the IP/SSR in wherever it would fit.



Don't be nervous, assuming your painter did his work right you'll be fine. One of the *nice* things about black is that it's usually pretty easy to gauge your progress- the marring shows up better than with colors like silver so you don't have to spend as much time/effort inspecting.
 
Sounds good!!:up

Yes my paint is pretty soft. I have read alot on here about SH paint and everyone says its pretty hard. :nixweiss

I know I have alot of clear on the car, so maybe its the amount of clear. I get alot of compliments about how deep the paint is and how straight the car is. Luckily I have ZERO orange peel:D

I just order some 4" pads that arrived yesyerday!
 
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