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Just spoke with someone over at CarCarOnline who said never use non-Carnauba products on a new car... impedes paint curing, etc. Any comments?
 
I sent Sal at Zaino an e-mail last week asking the same question. He replied saying it was perfectly safe and that most auto manufactures use paint the cures within a few hours...
 
Zaino will be fine to use on a new car. By the time the car has come to the dealership and you took delivery of it, the solvents in the paint have had plenty of time to evaporate.



Go ahead and Zaino, you will be fine.:up
 
I just QD'd my car today using Charisma's and they seem to be marring my sealant. At least I HOPE it's my sealant layers and not my clear. It's only really visible under flourescent lights and you have to look carefully. I remember an earlier thread talking about this.



I usually alternate between Charisma's and MF's and they have both worked great for me in the past. Looks like I'll be going back to using MF's for everything. I hope it's just something to do with the weather. Great, I just stocked up on Charisma's too.
 
I just bought 6 Fieldcrest Classic white bath towels from Filenes... they feel very soft. Are they OK, or should I only use Charisma?



Also... what type of applicator should I use to apply Zaino with... sponge or cotton loop? Never used it before...



I'm getting leather seats in the new car (BMW) and was just reading some archive posts about leather care... I'm a little confused about this topic. Is it OK to use Lexol or should I

switch over to something like Zaino's Leather-In-A-Bottle?



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Intermezzo330I



I posted a thread a little while back where I was having a problem with Charisma's marring Zaino. It's really strange that something so soft could marr anything. But, I have been using some Neatitems MF towels for the last week and I have not seen any marring. So, like you, it look like I will be going back to Microfiber for awhile.
 
Z10 has a more factory low gloss look, while lexol has a higher gloss. Use what ever your preference desires. Can't go wrong with either of them.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Alan B [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Also... what type of applicator should I use to apply Zaino with... sponge or cotton loop? Never used it before...
[/b]</blockquote>I've used both the Zaino cotton terry applicator and Viking foam applicators, and much prefer the foam. IMO, it's much easier to get a thin, even application from the foam, and I use less product as compared to the terry-covered app.

Also, you might consider giving a microfiber towel a try . . . I have Fieldcrest Charismas (trimmed and serged) and MF towels, and I don't use my Charismas much anymore. This is personal preference, of course, but it might be worth picking up at least one quality MF to give it a try (CMA's, YoSteve's, and neatitems' towels seem to get overal :up from forum members). I have ten neatitems towels, and was lucky enough to get in on the recent group buy for another ten . . . I like 'em.

Good luck,
Tort
 
I am a MF junky and strongly suggest you try them. Them have been around for a while and are great.



Maybe the ZFX will help prevent marring from cotton towels due to the quick cure???
 
Intermezzo330I -- I think I know the effect you are talking about. If what you are experiencing is what I have experienced, I don't think its the Charisma marring the Z.



What I have observed is that sometimes, particularly if you have too much Z on top of the paint, is that there is a "smeary" layer on top of the paint. ANYTHING will mush this around, lines will appear in it when it is rubbed, etc. MF has an incredible amount surface area and is almost like a micro-polishing cloth. It picks up a lot of stuff. So, I think it picks up excess Z very effectively and picks up whatever the "smeary, marr-y" stuff is (if it is not just Z). I think it is not that the MF does not marr the surface, it's that it picks up whatever the Charisma is pushing around.
 
I have two 2001 automobiles and they both have Zaino on them for protection.Just as most here say by the time you get your car the paint has been cured quite a while and is ready for some kind of protection.The Zaino is a great product that I am very pleased with on my new cars.Puting this kind of protection on a new car in todays enviroment is a must IMHO and I would think the worst thing is not to put it on quick enough.Go for it you want be sorry and good luck.Congrades on your new ride.:up
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by darbh [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Intermezzo330I
What I have observed is that sometimes, particularly if you have too much Z on top of the paint, is that there is a "smeary" layer on top of the paint. ANYTHING will mush this around, lines will appear in it when it is rubbed, etc.[/b]</blockquote>
Darbh, you are probably right because it was actually my KLASSE coat which I just applied last weekend that was getting the marring. I wasn't getting any marring on my Z coats which are about two months old, but on the Klasse, I WAS getting the marring.

DK, I'll check next weekend after my next wash to see if my marring is there.
 
DK - I understand and agree. Washing with Z7 will usually handle it.

Inter, yes, I agree.

In a prior post, I said I did not think the Charismas were causing the problem Inter reported. I wrote that while the Charismas were probably not causing the problem, the MF was curing the marring, or what I call smeariness, whereas the Charismas weren't.

An experiment I am conducting seems to confirm this theory and supports DK's ideas.

I have a <strong class='bbc'>brand new[/b] lower door panel that I received, direct from the dealer, still in its unopenned, factory taped packaging. Openned the packaging myself. It was flawless. [As an aside, I have never seen anything so beautiful on a dealer's lot. Shows you the harm that occures between the factory and when we take delivery. I mean, direct from the factory, the paint is UNBELIEVEABLE.]

I Dawned it (no clay), just for the heck of it, then Z1, Z2,Z6.
I keep the panel in my house, up high on a shelf near the ceiling (its hotter, better curing), and inverted (no dust). I take it down every couple days and Z2/Z6. This allows me to closely observe the process and effects under somewhat controlled conditions, at least more controlled than those affecting my car. I am also able to closely study the surface in a comfortable setting, with light I can control.

After a few coats, I observed the "smeariness." There is nothing terrible bad about it. In fact, I speculate it might be <em class='bbc'>good[/i] . It might represent a potential sacrificial layer, somewhat protecting the hardened layers underneth. Also, though I can see it on close inspection, on the vehicle or when viewing the panel from a distance of more than three feet, or if the angle is not just right, I cannot see the smeariness. But, there is definitely something there. It moves around when rubbed with a cotton towel. It picks up lines in what ever direction it is stroked.

I Z6ed with Charisma. The smeariness stayed. I Z6ed several times. It lessened, but was still there.

I applied another coat of Z2 and let it dry overnight. I removed it, and let it set another day. I observed the smeariness. I Z6ed with MF. It went away immediately. Now, this is not necessarily a good thing. I could feel the MF "grabing" the panel. I believe the millions of MF ends were scrubing the smeary material off the panel. While this is seemingly good, obviously, we don't want to remove TOO much of the Z.

Now, I have no doubt that if I used very, very thin coats of Z, the smeariness would be reduced, also.

I think that washing with Z7 handles the smeariness because in the washing and drying process the paint is rubbed a lot and the top, unbonded material that is smushing around is removed.

I will keep you informed of other results of the experiment. I had intended to put 10 coats of Z on the panel (matching the number I have on my car), then returning it to the dealer so he could put in on my car (replacing the one that got slightly damaged). Because damage to the existing panel is slight, I think I will keep the new panel for a while, in order to conduct more mad scientist experiements. It's easier to work on and inspect the panel in a warm house than bent over, outside -- usually at night (and, its been cold at night in LA, at least cold for us)!
 
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