fourcammer
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what are the options for waterless washing and what the options on rinseless washing . that is choices. i am wanting to try both. thanks
few questions on waterless and rinseless
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CH.Detailing
What's a detail?
Are you looking for suggestions on brands or for how each type of product is to be used?
TroyScherer
Ummm.... Ya.....
There are quite a few Rinseless options:
There are quite a few Waterless options:
- Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+ Concentrate
- BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Rinseless Wash
- Detailer's Pro Series Rinseless Wash & Gloss
- Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine
- Duragloss Rinseless Wash with Aquawax
There are quite a few Waterless options:
- Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+
- BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Waterless Wash
- Detailer's Pro Series Waterless Auto Wash
- Optimum Opti Clean Cleaner & Protectant
- Chemical Guys EcoSmart Waterless Wash
- Meguiars Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere
fourcammer
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thanks .there are a few choices .i am guessing they are pretty close in results . gonna read up on each and decide.i appreciate the help.
umi000
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Add Meguiar's Rinse Free Express Wash and Chemical Guys Hose-Free Eco Wash to the rinseless options.
Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
If by results you mean they will make a car clean, then yes, they are similar. You can use straight water and make a car clean.
The goal with a Waterless or Rinseless Wash is to not only clean the vehicle but to prevent scratching and in most cases, increase shine & protection.
07gtcs
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Waterless is also just for a slightly soiled car, and Rinseless can be for a more heavily soiled car, and also good for winter washes and where water restrictions are in place. I have used the BF brand of both versions and love them both.
TroyScherer
Ummm.... Ya.....
My choice between the 2 options would be rinseless. I have used ONR v2 as well as a sample of the new Meg's D114 rinseless. Both are very good. And they both would have a place in my bag. ONR for gloss enhancing and on sealants, and D114 for coatings and special project cars with expensive waxs.
Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
fourcammer
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after reading what you guys post i think i am gonna try rinseless.
TroyScherer
Ummm.... Ya.....
No I haven't. I 1st used ONR based on reviews and recommendations and liked it. So I bought a gallon. I haven't really looked into or at any others until now. I need to use up the last 12oz or so and I'll be looking at my options. And Richard was nice enough to send me some Megs D114 to try.
I will admit I am interested in the new ONR v3 since I have ONR now. But I like the idea of the Duragloss as it has AquaWax in it and I love AquaWax as a post wash wipe down. There have also been rave reviews about the new BF Rainless and I am intrigued as all the BF products are getting amazing reviews with very little to no negativity or drawbacks.
umi000
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I've used three of the rinseless options - ONR v2, DP Rinseless, and Ultima Waterless Wash (in rinseless dilution). The best among the three was the Ultima - leaves the paint really slick, adds a fair bit of gloss, and feels very lubricated to use. It is, however, three times the price, per wash, compared to the other two. Between DP and ONR v2, ONR seems to be just a little more lubricated, while the DP leaves just a little more slickness and shine to the paint. I'm planning on try the Blackfire, Meguiar's, Duragloss and the new ONR, though 
fourcammer
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i wanna try the blackfire.
mjlinane
My name is Mike
Blackfire WDRW is awesome. CG HFEW is excellent, too.
07gtcs
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BobbyG
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Waterless Washes
While they do seem to work I'm still sort of old school when it comes to these and prefer lots of water and lubricant with cleaning my vehicles.
Rinseless Washes
A couple of years ago I started using some of the new Rinseless Washes. There are several out there that work well but these two really perform well; Detailer’s Pro Series Rinseless Wash & Gloss and Optimum No Rinse. I mix these as well in hot water and use rubber gloves. I put some of the solution in a garden sprayer and soak down each panel allowing the solution to soften and begin dissolving the surface contaminates.
Next I dip a wool wash mitt in the solution then lightly wash each panel twice, once to remove the initial grime then a second time to remove any remaining and float them harmlessly to the floor. At first I was very apprehensive using these products because I was afraid of scratching the finish but it does a damn good job at protecting it.
Rinseless washes work great but I can't wait until the finish becomes caked with winter driving salts and sands like some do. If this does become the case then it's off to the car wash to blast away the heavy stuff with plain waster only.
Additionally,
Once the car's dry I like giving the finish some additional protection by give the entire finish a once over with a quality spray wax and Optimums Spray Car Wax is the best I've found to date. BlackFire Wet Diamond Polymer Spray is another great choice and both are easy to use.. Both are a spray and wipe products that perform superbly leaving a glossy shine and 4 to 5 months of added protection...
Here's the above step by step.
While they do seem to work I'm still sort of old school when it comes to these and prefer lots of water and lubricant with cleaning my vehicles.
Rinseless Washes
A couple of years ago I started using some of the new Rinseless Washes. There are several out there that work well but these two really perform well; Detailer’s Pro Series Rinseless Wash & Gloss and Optimum No Rinse. I mix these as well in hot water and use rubber gloves. I put some of the solution in a garden sprayer and soak down each panel allowing the solution to soften and begin dissolving the surface contaminates.
Next I dip a wool wash mitt in the solution then lightly wash each panel twice, once to remove the initial grime then a second time to remove any remaining and float them harmlessly to the floor. At first I was very apprehensive using these products because I was afraid of scratching the finish but it does a damn good job at protecting it.
Rinseless washes work great but I can't wait until the finish becomes caked with winter driving salts and sands like some do. If this does become the case then it's off to the car wash to blast away the heavy stuff with plain waster only.
Additionally,
Once the car's dry I like giving the finish some additional protection by give the entire finish a once over with a quality spray wax and Optimums Spray Car Wax is the best I've found to date. BlackFire Wet Diamond Polymer Spray is another great choice and both are easy to use.. Both are a spray and wipe products that perform superbly leaving a glossy shine and 4 to 5 months of added protection...
Here's the above step by step.
- Liberally wet down the panel and let it set
- Wash lightly using plenty of solution
- Rinse mitt and wash again allowing remaining contaminates to flow off the panel
- Dry with a Microfiber Guzzler towel while warm
- Every second wash I go over each panel with Optimum Spray Wax or BlackFire Wet Diamond Polymer Spray
Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
It is pretty clear some use the words rinseless and waterless like a strait jacket that prevents just doing the right things. In a traditional soap wash there are extremes (power washing, pre-foam to just a single bucket). Despite the words rinseless and waterless, doing a hose pre-rinse is not a crime against nature.
If it in doubt, hose is down (end up using maybe 3 to 4 gallons of water more max) if you can as you would do with any wash process. I think the key is just how much you are picking up in your wash media. If after one wipe, the mf is extremely dirty, it may warrant a different process.
If it in doubt, hose is down (end up using maybe 3 to 4 gallons of water more max) if you can as you would do with any wash process. I think the key is just how much you are picking up in your wash media. If after one wipe, the mf is extremely dirty, it may warrant a different process.