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9935annivgt

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Hi guys I have been on the forum a while and have decided to start detailing cars on the side, now that I have got a pretty good reputation from the local car showse. My question is what do many of you charge for a basic wash (bring to me at my home) and wax, and what do you charge for an ONR wash (go to them) or is it the same usually? I am looking to do paint correction on an hourly rate any suggestions? I have a PC and will try to keep it to moderate correction until I get enough of a base to step up to a rotary. Thanks a lot for any info you can give me.
 
My rate is $45 for the following:



I come to you

Set up my tent. 10 minutes

Wash it down. 15 minutes

Clean the wheel wells 5 minutes

Clean/Spray wax the rims. 10 minutes

Hyper Dressing on the tires. 1 minute for all 4

Bug&Tar removal. 5 minutes

Vacuum. 15 minutes

Dust. 2 minutes

Windows. 5 Minutes

Chrome. 1 Minute
 
MaksimumAuto said:
My rate is $45 for the following:



I come to you

Set up my tent. 10 minutes

Wash it down. 15 minutes

Clean the wheel wells 5 minutes

Clean/Spray wax the rims. 10 minutes

Hyper Dressing on the tires. 1 minute for all 4

Bug&Tar removal. 5 minutes

Vacuum. 15 minutes

Dust. 2 minutes

Windows. 5 Minutes

Chrome. 1 Minute
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That's absoutly insane... I would LOVE to see you pull that off in the timeframe's you list...
 
Jakerooni said:
That's absoutly insane... I would LOVE to see you pull that off in the timeframe's you list...
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I had a 2007 BMW 525i in my head when I was typing this which I do every two weeks. It doesn't ever get trashed and doesn't need anything more than a light mini-detail. Offcourse if the car was larger or dirtier than the time frames would be a lot different.



But one thing I'd like to stress for detailing a car on a basis...WAX THE RIMS. Waxing them saves you a lot of time the next time you detail it because the break dust doesn't adhere as severely.



And this car took 2 hours and 45 minutes to do today. About 1.5 hours were spent claybaring the rims to remove the worst break dust I've ever come across. :nervous:
 
The local tunnel wash with 8 guys pouncing on the car to dry and dress takes longer than that. Better get your watch checked!!!!



Andy
MaksimumAuto said:
My rate is $45 for the following:



I come to you

Set up my tent. 10 minutes

Wash it down. 15 minutes

Clean the wheel wells 5 minutes

Clean/Spray wax the rims. 10 minutes

Hyper Dressing on the tires. 1 minute for all 4

Bug&Tar removal. 5 minutes

Vacuum. 15 minutes

Dust. 2 minutes

Windows. 5 Minutes

Chrome. 1 Minute
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That sounds good and all but, at least for me, dusty or a week of dirt, the wash process remains the same. Wheel wax or not, I still address the enitire rim with P21s and assorted brushes. Just because there's wax on the rim wouldn't eliminate the need to agitate.





Andy

MaksimumAuto said:
I had a 2007 BMW 525i in my head when I was typing this which I do every two weeks. It doesn't ever get trashed and doesn't need anything more than a light mini-detail. Offcourse if the car was larger or dirtier than the time frames would be a lot different.



But one thing I'd like to stress for detailing a car on a basis...WAX THE RIMS. Waxing them saves you a lot of time the next time you detail it because the break dust doesn't adhere as severely.



And this car took 2 hours and 45 minutes to do today. About 1.5 hours were spent claybaring the rims to remove the worst break dust I've ever come across. :nervous:
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Got More Wax said:
That sounds good and all but, at least for me, dusty or a week of dirt, the wash process remains the same. Wheel wax or not, I still address the enitire rim with P21s and assorted brushes. Just because there's wax on the rim wouldn't eliminate the need to agitate.





Andy
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I'm not talking about agitating. I'm talking about claybaring the rims to remove the "speckled" break dust common with the BMWs. With waxed rims it's not so much of a problem.
 
Yeah, I get the claying and waxing rims. If you read around the forum, you'll see that claying and waxing rims is the norm for most Autopians. I was referring to your suggestion that having rims waxed contributed to your quick wash and dry. But, your post is a tad contridictory - 57 minutes for the car but, 1.5 for the wheels??



Andy
MaksimumAuto said:
I'm not talking about agitating. I'm talking about claybaring the rims to remove the "speckled" break dust common with the BMWs. With waxed rims it's not so much of a problem.
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Yea it's really contradictory I do agree with you there. The 1.5 hours on the rims was to set them back to factory condition, basically to make them as flawless as I could. What I'm trying to say is that after you detail a car completely and have a clean slate in the end, the next time you would detail it (a couple weeks in this example) you wouldn't have to spend an absurd amount of time. But I guess this varies greatly by how much the car is driven and where it's stored.



A service I offer called the "Bi-Weekly Detail" is only given to customers of a full detail. If I gave this service to everybody, I would basically be spending 4+ hours of work and receiving $45 since the car isn't thoroughly detailed to begin with.
 
Gotcha!



Thanks for the clarification!!



Andy
MaksimumAuto said:
Yea it's really contradictory I do agree with you there. The 1.5 hours on the rims was to set them back to factory condition, basically to make them as flawless as I could. What I'm trying to say is that after you detail a car completely and have a clean slate in the end, the next time you would detail it (a couple weeks in this example) you wouldn't have to spend an absurd amount of time. But I guess this varies greatly by how much the car is driven and where it's stored.



A service I offer called the "Bi-Weekly Detail" is only given to customers of a full detail. If I gave this service to everybody, I would basically be spending 4+ hours of work and receiving $45 since the car isn't thoroughly detailed to begin with.
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Sorry. But, I would guess yours is a question that has been answered numerous times! For me, wash starts @ $45.00 up to $70.00. I don't do much ONR. Wax...I always do prep prior to wax. So, my hourly would be $60.00 for any hourly work, which is how I also price my details, BTH.



Hope that helps??!!



Andy
9935annivgt said:
Thanks for hijacking the thread guys
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Figure out your expenses, fixed and variable, and figure out how long each service will take you in hours. Based on your expenses, figure out how much per hour you have to charge, to cover your expenses and make a profit. This obviously will be different for each individual business.
 
Thanks for the info guys, I am certainly not going to get rich at this but do not want to go in the hole either. Again thanks for the replys.
 
Doesn't it depend on where you live?



$45 in one place is fine, and it might be high/low in others. I think your best reference point might be to be within a stone's throw of other detailers in your area, at least to start with (until you create a following).
 
15951 said:
Doesn't it depend on where you live?



$45 in one place is fine, and it might be high/low in others. I think your best reference point might be to be within a stone's throw of other detailers in your area, at least to start with (until you create a following).
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Yes it does. The basic principle is still the same. You still need to cover your expenses and make a profit. Expenses will be slightly different depending on where you are located. If a specific location does not support the hourly rate you need to make, maybe this type of business is not a good idea.
 
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