Experiment: UPP, MW, EX, VM+MW

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Yesterday I striped the hood of my car, cleaned it and polished with SMR for dark colors.



After the prep, it was glossy and with a very good depth already. What I did was dividing it vertically in 4 sections and applied as per instructions the following sealants: (I'll say in random order)



Platinum UPC + UPP

Poorboy's EX

Moose Wax

Vanilla Moose Wax + MW



See if you find any difference (pics are tricky, I know)

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Sorry for the size, but it's better visible like that.
 
Lynn, I was doing tests with waxes, not looking at details on this one. Those holes are from the windshield wash sprays I removed to work better the hood.
 
If anyone wants to take a good look at the pics, on the first and second some separations are visible.



Take your shoots, tomorrow, after washing I'll post my thoughts.



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Didn't wash it. It has rained all day! beads are identical on all sections.



So, I'll post my first impressions, from yesterday.



As I said before, I applied all products as instructed to.



After preparing the surface with DACP and 3M SMR Dark Colors;



EX - w/ MF damp applicator, easy on. Buffed off after 30 min, easy off.



UPC+UPP - Cleaned the surface first w/ UPC which was let to haze a couple of minutes, buffed off and then UPP w/ foam applicator, easy on. Buffed after 1 hour, easy off.



MW - direct on the surface, like the EX. Application w/ a foam, removal w/ a MF cloth, easy on, easy off.



VMW+MW - Same process for both, application w/ foam applicator followed by removal with MF cloth. Easy on, easy off.



Ease of use: (based on easy on, easy off and time spent to complete)



1st - MW

2nd - VMW+MW

3rd - EX

4th - UPC+UPP



My impressions on the looks:



EX - Very reflective, darkened the surface a little, good depth.

VMW+MW - Very reflective, darkened the surface a little, good depth.

UPC+UPP - Very reflective, darkened the surface more, very good depth.

MW - Very reflective, didn't darkened the surface, didn't add depth, just bright.



The touch



Couldn't tell the difference between them, they were all very slick.



First Conclusions:



The more a product darks the surface, the more perceptible is depth, at least it's what happened with this four comparisons. This is visible in the 2nd pic, on the midle of the hood, left side is darker.



After driving the car for some hours, I also noticed that the UPP had more dust than the others, could be the oils it left on the surface, this is why I wanted to wash the car before posting any thoughts.



I'll keep you posted.
 
jgv, how does all the above compare to einszett? (I noticed you had Glanz Wax and other 1z goodies from another post)
 
Glanz Wax is a liquid, like watter wax. It's the easier to use of all. Provides a great smooth and bright finish.



I think that the one closer to it is the Moose Wax. Can't compare the durability, though.
 
For those who care, I've washed it today, with my favorite Einzsett Rain Dance Shampoo (makes the Sonax that I also have look like TW) and my last impressions are:



The sections where UPP and VMW+MW (next to MW alone) still looked a little darker, but under sun daylight, one that didn't know of this test wouldn't see a difference.



I have my conclusions, I'll stop this testing now and tomorrow I'll make the hood even, I'll clean it with 3M SMR DC followed by GEPC and... EX. (could be VMW+MW also, though if it was dark blue or black would be UPP and if silver it would have MW).
 
I've found more than that, I've found that as long as you like what you do and know how to do it, there are no horrible products. The products I have (and they are a LOT) are all great, some for this others for that, but I like to use them all.



My hood looked very good with each of them, as it did without them or it does now, with GEPC and EX ;)
 
If you're using 3mSMR DC, do you really need, or recieve any real benefit from using P21 GEPC?



I have some UPP & some Poorboys EX that I am going to use on a black Audi and a black Acura MDX. I want to make sure I prep correctly and right now I was thinking 3m SMR followed by AIO or Platinum paint prep finished with PUPP.



For the Poorboys side, I was thinking 3mSMR followed by EX, but then I have a bunch of products I could use if another step would really make a difference attempting to get the ultimate shine:



#7 or #9

IHG

Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner

AIO



I guess I don't see why another step would be neccessary before the EX but I would like to hear otherwise if someone has some experience to prove me wrong.



Sam
 
Sam,

For what it is worth, I use GEPC after prepping with SMR before protecting paint with EX. Since GEPC is so easy to use and the final surface is slightly slicker I like adding this step. :wavey
 
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