example of why a paint cleaner is important

mixxer

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i cant post pics of the the car but ,the car did was washed ,clayed and polished with menzerna 106 orange pad. Then i used white pad with KLASSE AIO and this was the result,it goes to show you how important a paint cleaner is in a good detail.

 
Did you say "WHITE" pad. Where I don't see (wait) oh there it is on the bottom.



Man if that doesn't say a lot to a customer.
 
Are you sure it was from the paint? I ask because the Menzerna Micro Polish I have turns my white pads gray.
 
mixxer said:
a special gto,silver with flake.i also did a wipe down after polish with dp waterless wash.



I am not sure that the waterless wash would have removed all of the polish residue though. An IPA wipedown would have. Now that I know that the paint is silver, was it a single stage paint or a clear coat? (I am only asking because that possibly may also be paint on the pad, just an observation).
 
clear coated,im sure some of it polish residue and alot of dirt . My main point is no matter what it is or where it came from its important to get it off before moving on to LSP.
 
Grimm said:
Are you sure it was from the paint? I ask because the Menzerna Micro Polish I have turns my white pads gray.



+1. I didn't have any color change with the IP and orange pad, but when I moved to the next step with the MP and white pad, it changed my pad gray as well.
 
What are some good AIOs? Can you just use a cleaner wax and get the same results, instead?





Good thread by the way, it's pretty informative.
 
From observation I believe that AIOs are usually sealants (polymer and acrylic) (Klasse, Zaino, and Optimum Poliseal, Megs #20) with cleaners, whereas cleaner waxes are nubas bases with cleaners (Mother's, Meguiars #6, Meguiars Cleaner Wax). Sometimes cleaner waxes are also marketed as paint cleaning lotions (i.e. Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion).
 
mixxer said:
clear coated,im sure some of it polish residue and alot of dirt . My main point is no matter what it is or where it came from its important to get it off before moving on to LSP.



I agree about getting everything off before an LSP. My point is to say that a good IPA wipe down would have been more beneficial than using a waterless wash. Obviously the waterless wash was a waste of product and time because the paint did not get cleaned until the AIO. I am only suggesting that you do not do things that are wasteful, that's all. Each step should have a significant purpose. You may have thought that the waterless wash had a purpose, but clearly did not as told by the pad.
 
very true howareb that the waterless wash didnt do **** but the main reason i used it was to get the dusting off the car so i didnt scratch and undo the work i had already done by polishing.what is the ratio you use for IPA wipe down im going to try that next time and see what happens?
 
mixxer said:
very true howareb that the waterless wash didnt do **** but the main reason i used it was to get the dusting off the car so i didnt scratch and undo the work i had already done by polishing.what is the ratio you use for IPA wipe down im going to try that next time and see what happens?



For IPA I just mix 50:50.
 
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