Evercoat? compound questions

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jsf252

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I'm new to the forum, although I've been reading posts here for about 3-4 months. I've picked up a PC, and the Sonus Pad kit.

I was browsing a paint finish store the other day and saw a product called "Evercoat" and it looked like a knock-off of 3M products, or vice-versa. It was bottled the same as 3M products, except for the label. They had several grades of the product, like 3M "finesse it".

Anyhow, I've got some swirls on my BMW, and thought about using this product. I grabbed a bottle of the "medium-cut" compound, for ~$15.00.



So as a test, I took an old fender (it had been washed and dried prior to the test) with swirls, and used this stuff. I used the orange pad, and it gave good results. The only thing I have a question about, is the evercoat seemed to cake up like it was drying out. I'm assuming that this isn't normal, as none of my other products do this. What's the reason for this?



Also, is this "evercoat" any good, or should I get some 3M and go that direction.



I know you guys will help, as there are a ton of knowledgable guys here?



Thanks,

Josh F.
 
Anyone?



If you dont know about "evercoat" products, then at least tell me about why the polish is caking/drying so early?



My other products stay nice and wet, and take some rubbing with the PC, before they haze a little. This stuff will stay wet for 10 seconds, then start leaving dry-looking spots, like the compound is drying and sticking to the pad.



Is this just the product, or is there too much heat, or the pad wrong. Using Orange Sonus pad with it.



Thanks
 
You're probably not getting a response because Evercoat isn't a product many people (if any) have used, and this is a product specific question. Usually, if you are experiencing caking and/or premature drying it's due to one of three things: 1) Working too large of an area, thus allowing the product too much time to *flash* while on the paint, 2) Not enough product for the size area you are working, thus overworking the product, or 3) PC set too high, thus overworking the product. Which one of these three examples fits your issue?
 
Thanks for the reply, In part I was asking about this product to see if anyone had used it, and also the problem with it caking.



Anyhow, I think I might have doing too large an area with it. I'm not familiar with using compounds, so I wanted to see if this happens with any other products?



Like I said in my initial post, I tried it on an old fender to see if it would help with swirls, and to see what the product did.



I might have been using a little too much speed on the PC also, IIRC I started working it in with it set to "1" on the dial. Then I bumped it up to ~"3" to work with.



Is "3" too high? I know you haven't used it, but with 3M's medium cutting compound would you turn it up that high? I tried to keep it in the 2-3 sq ft area suggested on the bottle.



I guess my problem is that I didn't know what caused products to cake/flash in the first place, so now I know that I could be using too much speed/heat, or working too large an area.



I was just curious to see how you guys would work a medium cutting compound (pad and speed)?



Thanks again,

Josh
 
jsf252 said:
........I might have been using a little too much speed on the PC also, IIRC I started working it in with it set to "1" on the dial. Then I bumped it up to ~"3" to work with.......
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3 is a little too slow to work a compound, so I don't think speed is a problem. I usually start out slow to spread and then bump the PC up to at least 5, while making slow passes.



Try using a little more product and work a smaller area (~2 x 2). You may also want to stop before the product dries, but has had time to break down. I'm not familar with the Evercoat polishes, but you may have discoved one reason they are cheaper than the 3M line. It's hard to beat 3M PI III RC and MG as a good polish combo.
 
I appreciate all the help, I found the evercoat site, and this is the product that I purchased.



Maybe someone will recognize it then. Maybe its just sold regionally, I live in the S.E., and several body shops use their "bondo-like" products.



Thanks again,

Josh
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Josh,

Evercoat is a competitor of 3-M. I have the complete line up here at the factory. Its not bad stuff, its definitely more on the professional level. It might be caking up if a product is water based and using a pad at to high of temp. This would cause the water in the formula to dissipate, causing "caking". Hope this helps.



Eric
 
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