Engine Detailing

I washed my engine bay and then tried the 'spray everything with Armor All' method once.

I hated it. Sure the plastic/rubber things looked good. But once the Armor All went on the painted parts the engine bay just looked greasy all over again.

I washed it again and used 303 on a rag to only shine the parts I wanted.



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I don't think highly of that guy. He admits that AA will degrade rubber over time, but uses it anyway. Some people may want to replace broken engine hoses when they get stranded on the side of the road, but I'm not one of them.

His tip of soaking the engine bay with AA is disgusting. It reminds me of typical half-*** dealership work.



I cleaned my whole engine compartment by hand yesterday, and then dressed the plastic/rubber with Meg's NXT Tech Protectant and polished the metal by hand with Mothers mag/aluminum polish. It took me about 1.5hrs, and I do this twice a year. That's not a big deal IMO, and it looks much better than dousing the whole engine bay in AA.



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If the engine bay is really dirty, then I'll use water and a hose on a cold engine. Hot engines will create steam, which can get into smaller places where it shouldn't be easier.



As soon as I'm done washing I'll dry up puddles with a large towel and then start the engien. If it's got E-fans, then turn the A/C on. 99% of the time the E-fans will kick on when the compressor is running. Now just let the engine dry itself.



After it's dry I'll dampen a towel with my choice of dressing and hit all the rubber and plastic. Lately it's been Armor All but I also LOVE 303 Aerospace (expensive though) and Stoner's Trim Shine (The water-based one).



White95Max said:
I don't think highly of that guy. He admits that AA will degrade rubber over time, but uses it anyway. Some people may want to replace broken engine hoses when they get stranded on the side of the road, but I'm not one of them.

His tip of soaking the engine bay with AA is disgusting. It reminds me of typical half-*** dealership work.



I cleaned my whole engine compartment by hand yesterday, and then dressed the plastic/rubber with Meg's NXT Tech Protectant and polished the metal by hand with Mothers mag/aluminum polish. It took me about 1.5hrs, and I do this twice a year. That's not a big deal IMO, and it looks much better than dousing the whole engine bay in AA.



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So.. ummm... you're continuing the myth that Armor All degrades rubber?
 
Intel486 said:
So.. ummm... you're continuing the myth that Armor All degrades rubber?



I never said that. The guy that was using it in the above link said that. I have never used Armor All so I don't have any experience with it one way or the other.
 
White95Max said:
I never said that. The guy that was using it in the above link said that. I have never used Armor All so I don't have any experience with it one way or the other.



Ohh, sorry, thought you were agreeing with him.
 
yup you do cover the battery fuse box alternator and w/e you dont feel confortable dousing with water
 
Yes I'd cover all of the electrical items. There are lots of places that hold water though, like the valve cover on my engine. That's why I prefer to just clean engines by hand.
 
heres a trick



find meguiars discontuned EXTRA and mist in all over the engine (avoiding the battery and alterator)and then wipe a away with a terry or a microfiber then over the rubber parts with NXT protectant or Meguiars Natual Shine.







you could also find some random socks and replace the towel it gives you great control and reach into all parts of the engine
 
and no i dont think armor all harms rubber but i would never use it any way



mike phillips explained why the myth was created and how there was some truth behind it

"First of all, modern plastic dashes, (this includes vinyl, which is a type of plastic), are far more advanced in their chemistry than vinyl dashes 30, 20 and even 10 years ago. Just like most things, when new technology comes along to make a product better, most companies adopt it. I can’t say that I have seen too many dashes on modern cars crack.



The way older vinyl dashes were made, a Plasticizer was included in the vinyl to help make the plastic soft, elastic and flexible. Over time, and exposure to heat and direct sunlight, the plasticizers in the vinyl break down, deteriorate and the vinyl becomes hard and brittle and susceptible to cracking instead of flexing.



Some vinyl protectants in the past used a plasticizer in their formula to soften the vinyl to make it flexible, and keep it flexible. Here was the problem with that, there’s an old saying, �Like products dissolve like products�, this was the case with the plasticizer in some protectant products, it had a tendency to dissolve and leach out the vinyl’s original plasticizers prematurely thus accelerating the deterioration process. This could lead to cracking in vinyl dashes because the vinyl became more brittle and hard.



An analogy is your finger nails. When your fingernails are hard and brittle, they will crack. After exposing them to water for an extended period of time, shower, swimming, bath, hot tub, etc. your fingernails become soft and flexible, much less prone to cracking or breaking. Because of new technology used to make plastics, plasticizers in products are no longer an issue.



Meguiar’s vinyl products contain no plasticizers.



Meguiar’s vinyl products don’t use any ingredients that are harmful to vinyl, and in fact just the opposite. Some of Meguiar’s vinyl protectants contain safe and gentle chemical cleaners to help clean the vinyl so you don’t seal and trap dirt and dust into the surface. Meguiar’s M-40 Vinyl & Rubber Cleaner/Conditioner is an example of a vinyl protectant that contains a safe chemical cleaner.



Other ingredients used in Meguiar’s vinyl products are in their to block out UV rays which fade the vinyl by breaking down the pigments used to give vinyl it’s color. Some ingredients add protection by leaving behind a coating that water proofs vinyl and prevents staining. Specialized ingredients penetrate into the vinyl and create beauty while helping to maintain flexibility. Other ingredients, such as silicones are added to create shine.



By the way, Meguiar’s uses no harmful silicones in any of the products. Silicones are inert, they have no negative effect to the surface or material they are applied to. In some formulas they ad shine, in some formulas the improve application and removal which is a benefit to the user."

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=982
 
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