Electric cars DIRTIER and COST MORE to run per mile... Say it ain't so......

Setec Astronomy said:
Why is it if you buy a fuel-efficient vehicle, you are "saving the planet"? Do you ridicule your customers who have little cars and tell them they should drive a Suburban?

This reminds me of the 70's when there were the muscle-car guys and the sports car guys--they were just guys with different tastes. Some guys liked to go fast in a straight line, some guys liked to go fast around curves (of course, with the technology gains noted previously, now you can have both).

If I like brunettes over blondes, am I saving the planet from hair-dye residue?
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I typed, "so you can claim you are saving the planet"

If you want to do something that is good for the environment; great, but the rest of us should not be forced to support your decision with our tax dollars

Your analogy of the 70s makes no sense in relation to my previous comment
 
allenk4 said:
My Grandparents immigrated from Denmark to the States in the 50's

If you lived in Denmark right now you would, on average, make 30% less and pay Personal Income Tax of 61%

As long as somebody else is paying for it...it is always a brilliant idea


Denmark Personal Income Tax Rate | 1995-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar
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In comparing 2015 the rates are 55% compared to 39.6% for the U.S. While it costs more, is money what really matters when comparing quality of life? Now that comes down to personal beliefs and the emphasis a specific person places on taking care of others but look at any quality of life survey and see how countries such as Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Australia, and such place compared to the U.S. Kind of makes you wonder if emphasis on money is overemphasized when your people aren't happy or over-worked or burnt out by 30.
 
ec90 said:
In comparing 2015 the rates are 55% compared to 39.6% for the U.S. While it costs more, is money what really matters when comparing quality of life? Now that comes down to personal beliefs and the emphasis a specific person places on taking care of others but look at any quality of life survey and see how countries such as Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Australia, and such place compared to the U.S. Kind of makes you wonder if emphasis on money is overemphasized when your people aren't happy or over-worked or burnt out by 30.
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Where did you get the 2015 number for Denmark?

Where did you get the average personal tax rate for the US (39.6%)?
It appears that you compared the average paid in Denmark versus the top Federal Bracket in the USA; not the average. Did you do that on purpose to confuse the reader or do you not understand the difference?

You will immediately notice that all of the countries have a xxxxgenous population currently


Burned out by 30? What a Baby. Complaining is frowned upon in Scandinavian countries and epidemic in some segments of the population in the USA
 
Taxes have to be high in Denmark.

How else are they going to pay for all the free government assisted heroin they go through over there?
 
Swanicyouth said:
Taxes have to be high in Denmark.

How else are they going to pay for all the free government assisted heroin they go through over there?
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I am sure that really shamed them but they are probably saying stuff about us like why we have some of the highest incarceration rates in the world (2+ million in jail, many on drug crimes) and seem to kill each other regularly. The heroin idea is similar to what we did with Methadone. They became methadone addicts (taking a line from the Woody Allen movie).
 
Bunky said:
I am sure that really shamed them but they are probably saying stuff about us like why we have some of the highest incarceration rates in the world (2+ million in jail, many on drug crimes) and seem to kill each other regularly. The heroin idea is similar to what we did with Methadone. They became methadone addicts (taking a line from the Woody Allen movie).
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I think my bigger issue with our jail system is how poor our re-arrest rate is. Not to mention we imprison a larger portion of our population than nearly any modernized country. But when 50-70% of those arrested are re-arrest within a few years of release compared to rates half off that elsewhere.
 
The rest of the world struggles to understand how in some segments of our population 70% of Children are born to Parents who are not married

70% of Children who do not have a stable Family or a Father in their life.

This has lead to a Boom in the Prison System and driven demand for Stripper Poles thru the roof
 
Bunky said:
I am sure that really shamed them but they are probably saying stuff about us like why we have some of the highest incarceration rates in the world (2+ million in jail, many on drug crimes) and seem to kill each other regularly. The heroin idea is similar to what we did with Methadone. They became methadone addicts (taking a line from the Woody Allen movie).
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There is no shame in the truth. But, it's really no big deal. We do the same thing here. State funded programs have been paying for "opiate maintenance" in various forms here in PA for years.

The alarming thing is how much it's on the upswing recently. These programs constantly expand because they are profitable for pharmaceutic manufacturers and actually increase jobs in the private and public sector.

But, you still can't walk in somewhere here and get shot up legally to get high like you can in Denmark. The frustrating thing is, just like the "electric car" - the worker has to subsidize these things out of his pay check.
 
Swanicyouth said:
There is no shame in the truth. But, it's really no big deal. We do the same thing here. State funded programs have been paying for "opiate maintenance" in various forms here in PA for years.

The alarming thing is how much it's on the upswing recently. These programs constantly expand because they are profitable for pharmaceutic manufacturers and actually increase jobs in the private and public sector.
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So do you think something can/should be done about this? You're kind of saying you're a "job creater" because you dispense these opiate substitutes. What would you suggest we do to reduce the constant expansion of these programs? I have heard theories that these types of addiction are genetic and that certain people are unable to take commonly prescribed pain medications without becoming addicted, while others are unaffected.

Is the problem the doctors who routinely prescribe these painkillers after common surgical procedures? Is it the pharma companies pushing the doctors to do this? Is it the stupid patients who can't tough out the pain? You admit to being "alarmed"; do you have any solutions or suggestions? Just asking.
 
So I don't have to read a lot, would someone tell me how it went from electric cars to drugs?
 
Ronkh said:
So I don't have to read a lot, would someone tell me how it went from electric cars to drugs?
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Hug a tree and plan your trip accordingly

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The Tesla is a very kool technology and the first of the mid to high end reliable battery cars I would consider once the charging stations are worked out.

I routinely drive over 300 miles a day (sad but true) and the charging issue is a deal breaker for me.

One of my neighbors picked up an electric smart car to drive to the train station less than 2 miles away and he charges it once every 2-3 weeks. It makes sense in his case, plus they have a chunk of parking reserved for electrics and hybrids.

I don't know why the battery cannot be recharged from the energy of the spinning wheels? That would be awesome, like and everlasting tank of gas??????
 
JSFM35X said:
I don't know why the battery cannot be recharged from the energy of the spinning wheels? That would be awesome, like and everlasting tank of gas??????
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Um...because that would be perpetual motion and violate the laws of thermodynamics. I believe that most (all?) electric cars recover braking energy in the same way hybrids do. If your 300 miles includes a lot of stop-and-go, then a hybrid would serve you well. I'm trying to remember your fleet but Lexus has some very nice hybrids IIRC in both sedan and SUV.
 
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