duragloss 105 tpp

TOYOTA FJ said:
Duragloss #105, Duragloss TPP (Total Performance Polish)

been reading alot swear by this product. how are the results of this stand alone product?
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I have used it for several years very durable.
Here is what it looks like on my cars.





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Reflective clarity is also pretty good.





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Easy on, easy off, looks good.
I do use the #601 PBA with it and use Aqua Wax fairly often.
I can't say for sure on durability since I don't leave my vehicles alone for extended periods of time. Seems to be good for 4 to 6 weeks, but I'm sure the frequent AW applications help.

I kind of jump back and forth between the DG #105 and Optimum Opti-Seal as my LSP the past couple of years.
 
CharlesW said:
Easy on, easy off, looks good.
I do use the #601 PBA with it and use Aqua Wax fairly often.
I can't say for sure on durability since I don't leave my vehicles alone for extended periods of time. Seems to be good for 4 to 6 weeks, but I'm sure the frequent AW applications help.

I kind of jump back and forth between the DG #105 and Optimum Opti-Seal as my LSP the past couple of years.
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Charles you are too ambitious try 6 months it will do that easy even much longer if you want.
 
I don;t know how they can say it protects against acid rain, tree sap and bird crap.It is a wax based product. Do they offer some kind of warranty if you had a problem with the mentioned they would cover the cost to get it fixed ?

Wax lays on top of the surface.does not bond with the paint.The only product I know of that bond's with the paint is Teflon (pure) not Teflon based products.
 
cartoysautospa said:
I don;t know how they can say it protects against acid rain, tree sap and bird crap.It is a wax based product. Do they offer some kind of warranty if you had a problem with the mentioned they would cover the cost to get it fixed ?

Wax lays on top of the surface.does not bond with the paint.The only product I know of that bond's with the paint is Teflon (pure) not Teflon based products.
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DG 105 is not a wax based product. It's a synthetic sealant. Synthetic sealants do bond at a molecular level with the paint. At least the little bit of scientific info I have read on the subject leads me to believe this.

Teflon cannot be used for paint protection purposes. It has to be baked on at around 400-600 degrees Fahrenheit. I suggest reading some about Teflon before thinking you can use it for paint protection. I believe DuPont released a memo a while back stating that the Teflon name can be licensed and used to help market car care products, but that it adds no protection factor to the paint.
 
And to add - a wax can help in protection against tree sap, bird droppings, and acid rain. Even though wax "lays on top of the surface" as you say, it does offer a sacrificial barrier between the paint finish and the possible contaminants. It may be very weak, but it's better than nothing.
 
cartoysautospa said:
I don;t know how they can say it protects against acid rain, tree sap and bird crap.It is a wax based product. Do they offer some kind of warranty if you had a problem with the mentioned they would cover the cost to get it fixed ?

Wax lays on top of the surface.does not bond with the paint.The only product I know of that bond's with the paint is Teflon (pure) not Teflon based products.
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Before you criticize the product you should learn something about it.
Like JP said it is a sealant NOT a wax.
I have used it on 4 of my vehicles for several years and they have been subjected to tree sap acid rain and bird poop and have seen NO damage.
Several years ago I remember talking with Bill on the phone and he told me about washing his car with acid just to see if the 105 could hold up and it did after washing it off the car would still bead.
 
black bart said:
Before you criticize the product you should learn something about it.
Like JP said it is a sealant NOT a wax.
I have used it on 4 of my vehicles for several years and they have been subjected to tree sap acid rain and bird poop and have seen NO damage.
Several years ago I remember talking with Bill on the phone and he told me about washing his car with acid just to see if the 105 could hold up and it did after washing it off the car would still bead.
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Whoa now black bart, you're starting to sound like a Auri infomercial. ;)
 
whether I have used a product or not.........it is what is contained in the product.A wax cannot(unless it is some miracle product) guard against acid rain bird droppings tree sap etc. What you guys have to remember here is this. When a company touts there product will do this and that.most people take that to heart and once applied do not take any further steps beyond that point. If bird poop get's on their car they leave it on there "as they think they are guarded" I am sure you remove it quickly. the same is for tree sap , and acid rain.

My shop removes acid rain ....and trust me, time and time again my customers leave their car by the sprinkler system for it to pee all over their paint. only when it get's to the point of almost un repairable do they bring it over and want a miracle.
Now Jared to your response about Teflon . True Teflon has to be heated to 400 degrees or more to adhere to a surface.However I have used a Teflon product for years.Here is how it works on cars ,planes etc. . You have a part A and a part B that you mix on your buffer pad, part A and part B combined with a buffer that spins @ 2800 rpms makes molecular heat of 712 degrees F. Plus before oyu apply the Teflon you have to set -up the paint to accept the Finish. The paint has to be as slick as a finished wax vehicle, before you can apply the Teflon.

It is a process and requires much patience......and does not work well in colder climates as your shop needs to be 70 degrees to get it to go on smoothly.

And yes Du Pont says it can't be done, that is why these company's around the US that make the "True " Teflon products just buy the Resin "TEFLON from Du PONT..........and if oyu don;t believe me which most of you guys don;t then contact Miracle Finish in Datura Georgia and speak with the Manufacture...That is where I buy mine from since 1991.

The long and the short of this is most all waxes and or sealants are basically the same ...it's how they sell their sizzle....and maybe have one or two components that might make theirs a little different. A wax will not protect againist those natural elements or fall out, unless there or your car NEVER sat outside.
 
cartoysautospa said:
whether I have used a product or not.........it is what is contained in the product.A wax cannot(unless it is some miracle product) guard against acid rain bird droppings tree sap etc. What you guys have to remember here is this. When a company touts there product will do this and that.most people take that to heart and once applied do not take any further steps beyond that point. If bird poop get's on their car they leave it on there "as they think they are guarded" I am sure you remove it quickly. the same is for tree sap , and acid rain.
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Sure it can. Wax lays on the paint. Bird poops on paint. Poop eats wax before it eats paint. Given that you get it off in time, poop does not eat paint. Wax protected paint. Simple.


cartoysautospa said:
Now Jared to your response about Teflon . True Teflon has to be heated to 400 degrees or more to adhere to a surface.However I have used a Teflon product for years.Here is how it works on cars ,planes etc. . You have a part A and a part B that you mix on your buffer pad, part A and part B combined with a buffer that spins @ 2800 rpms makes molecular heat of 712 degrees F. Plus before oyu apply the Teflon you have to set -up the paint to accept the Finish. The paint has to be as slick as a finished wax vehicle, before you can apply the Teflon.

It is a process and requires much patience......and does not work well in colder climates as your shop needs to be 70 degrees to get it to go on smoothly.

And yes Du Pont says it can't be done, that is why these company's around the US that make the "True " Teflon products just buy the Resin "TEFLON from Du PONT..........and if oyu don;t believe me which most of you guys don;t then contact Miracle Finish in Datura Georgia and speak with the Manufacture...That is where I buy mine from since 1991.
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Oh my Lord.... You have to be kidding, right? You know the sales pitch you give to your uneducated customers just isn't going to fly with someone who understands this. Teflon is a powder and has to be heated to high temps to liquefy it. As I suggested earlier, do some research on Teflon.

And for some reason, I thought you had custom blended products, then I thought you used Malco or one of the other truck delivery brands. So which is it?
 
What is teflon®?
Teflon® is a trade name of DuPont Chemicals for a polymer, polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE). In spite of what some detail chemical companies may say, Teflon is a polymer that is not well suited for use in a paint sealant or wax because of several properties unrelated to its durable slippery nature.

Teflon is a powder that melts at 600° F or dissolves in fluorinated solvents such as Freon. Those are the only known ways to liquefy Teflon. If it cannot be made into liquid, it cannot coat or stay on a surface.

Professional Carwashing & Detailing Magazine, Volume 34, Issue 1 - January 2010.



Sounds like you've been getting "marketed" since 1991.
 
This synthetic product is sometimes sold as a paint protective sealant or cleaner sealant. Some automobile manufacturers who market these products advertise Teflon products as an extremely long lasting product, with a protection span for your vehicle’s finish for anywhere from one to five years (sometimes longer). Unfortunately, this claim is dubious.

“If nothing sticks to Teflon, how does Teflon sticks to the pan?”

The answer is: “IT DOESN’T”. The bonding between Teflon and the pan is mechanical. The surface of the pan is etched and the Teflon is applied at temperatures over 640° F. Teflon simply dries in the etched pan and mechanically adheres to it.

In order to protect any surface with Teflon, it has to be applied at a very high temperature (over 640 F). Applying a spray-on version of Teflon or mixing the Teflon with water does not effectively bond the Teflon to the surface it is being applied to. The chemical formulation necessary to make a good bond cannot be completed at low temperatures.

Even if it was possible to bond Teflon to the vehicle paint, Teflon would give a dull, flat appearance on the vehicle’s surface, since it is a dull product. So if a large enough quantity is used to “protect” the paint, the paint will, in fact appear dull, this makes the entire procedure all but useless.

Even the manufacturer of Teflon does not recommend using it as a car wax additive. DuPont Chemicals (The producer of Teflon®) has stated: “The addition of a Teflon® Fluor polymer resin does nothing to enhance the properties of a car wax. We have no data that indicates the use of Teflon® is beneficial in car waxes.”


Teflon Based waxes and Sealants
 
cartoysautospa said:
whether I have used a product or not.........it is what is contained in the product.A wax cannot(unless it is some miracle product) guard against acid rain bird droppings tree sap etc. ......And yes Du Pont says it can't be done, that is why these company's around the US that make the "True " Teflon products just buy the Resin "TEFLON from Du PONT..........and if oyu don;t believe me which most of you guys don;t then contact Miracle Finish in Datura Georgia and speak with the Manufacture...That is where I buy mine from since 1991.

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Am I the only one to see some irony in your post? ;)
 
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