Do you prefer "No-Rinse" over Conventional Car Wash?

I'll also throw in here for the conventional method as my preference but I do use ONR for quick and easy removal of polish dust, hitting a section on a friend's car prior to buffing out a scratch or rub etc. Like others have already mentioned I don't like it for wheels - especially the "innerds" of wheels.

I should say that I have been using it exclusively for about 2 months now with the water restrictions in place in my area and I have been impressed with ONR. I am anxious for those to be lifted so I can give my car a good, foamy 2 bucket bath!
 
Waterless Wash and Polish

Has anyone tried Ultraluster Waterless Wash and Polish? A local truck accessory store swears by this product, and seeing it demonstrared on a dirty, and dusty truck it seemed OK. I'm a bit old fashioned I guess, but am staying with the hose and usual auto wash until I find out others opinions!

Any comments from the experts?
 
Going Mobile said:
Swirl, check your PM.
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FWIW, you guys can post stores on here, just no direct linking. ONR is a great product and I use it for weekly washes on my own cars. However on clients cars I generally use the traditional methods (I will use ONR to remove compounding dust).
 
th0001 said:
FWIW, you guys can post stores on here, just no direct linking...
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th0001, thanks. I'm hesitant to post a competitor's name because I appreciate all of PAC's info, help and good service over the years and would like to return the favor by not mentioning rivals. Yeah, I try to be a loyal customer. But, next time the subject comes into play, I'll mention the competition.
 
BretFraz said:
Do I prefer it? No, I get better results from a traditional hose wash. I just can't get wheels, tires, and wheelwells clean with the no rinse process.
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:iagree:

Since I have the year round facilites in winter, a traditional wet wash is my preference. When the cars aren't too grungy, it's cold out and I don't want to move one outside to center the other in the bay I'll frequently mix up some ONR and do both cars in the limited space.

Versatile product, I keep a spray bottle mixed up at clay lube strength and also use it as a spray & wipe type product.

TL
 
Conventional method for me, always.

My wife's car is black. It's parked 500 feet from a concrete/cement recycling facility. It is covered with minute particles of cement regrinds. ONR would be useless on that contamination. I have to rinse down the car everyday to remove the particulates and if it's rained, the lower panels are pasted with cement residue. That is corrosive stuff. No ONR in my washing cycles.

My Mazda is in a construction zone all day. It comes home covered with mud, sand, sawdust, soil silt from grading vehicles, etc. ONR would be useless on that too.

On the subject of water restrictions. Those have come about because of waste. Who is the biggest violator? The state and local governments here are the ones who waste more water than any car wash or home car wash.

One example. The city where I live allowed a fire hydrant to leak for 6 months AFTER I reported it. Millions of gallons of fresh drinking water down the storm sewer. And then they want to restrict a person from washing a car? They need to get their house in order first! I'm done with that rant.
 
I happen to love ONR. However, there are some things that don't come as clean using ONR as they do with a standard wash. Obviously, during the winter months, I will use ONR exclusively. But, as soon as the warmer weather hits, I will do standard washings with a 2BM. If the car isn't very dirty, and I just want to do a quick wash, I will use the ONR.


User Name said:
No comparison for me. Conventional all the way, although I see the value of something like ONR during the winter months.
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Nice to see you back User Name!:thumbup:
 
I just used the Zaino car wash soap for the first time, I put an ounce of ONR in with it because I have read numerous times that it is a great additive for spot free drying.
I did like how it went down,it seemed easier to dry and I had no spots to be forming and I wasnt in a huge hurry either....it was about 40 degrees that day and a little sunny.I washed it in the car wash bay and pulled it out in the sun,cause it was cold in the stall....it went nicely, next time maybe I will leave the NR out and compare....:smile:
 
I really doubted ONR until I used it. I have been really impressed with it and now use it regularly. I used to wash my car once a month because it was such a time consuming process and battling water spots was impossible with a black car and the Florida heat. I actually bought ONR as a last desperate attempt to battle water spots before I was going to break down and buy a CR Spotless. Now I have started using ONR weekly and am only spending maybe 20 minutes and it works great. I have tried it with several different types of wash mitts and they have all worked fine and I havent found any swirling yet. I still use the traditional method every once in a while but ONR saves me a lot of time.
 
Strs90 said:
I really doubted ONR until I used it. I have been really impressed with it and now use it regularly. I used to wash my car once a month because it was such a time consuming process and battling water spots was impossible with a black car and the Florida heat. I actually bought ONR as a last desperate attempt to battle water spots before I was going to break down and buy a CR Spotless. Now I have started using ONR weekly and am only spending maybe 20 minutes and it works great. I have tried it with several different types of wash mitts and they have all worked fine and I havent found any swirling yet. I still use the traditional method every once in a while but ONR saves me a lot of time.
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I feel the same way. ONR does a great job of cleaning, leaves the paint finish slick, it saves time, and it's CHEAP!

What's not to like?:cornut:
 
RED JEWELL SS said:
Bill,
do you use it all the time as your go to wash ?
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It really depends on the vehicle and the customer.

For an "Express" detail ($69), which is wash, vacuum, spray wax, dress tires, then Yes. A couple hours work.

If I know I'm going to have a vehicle for 10 hours or a couple days, I'll do a foam gun wash with Z7. Then 2 bucket method with Z7.

For my DD's I almost always use ONR.

Vettes get the gun.
 
Luster said:
It really depends on the vehicle and the customer.

For an "Express" detail ($69), which is wash, vacuum, spray wax, dress tires, then Yes. A couple hours work.

If I know I'm going to have a vehicle for 10 hours or a couple days, I'll do a foam gun wash with Z7. Then 2 bucket method with Z7.

For my DD's I almost always use ONR.

Vettes get the gun.
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Aw sum to know , I just bought a foam gun....just seemed like a good tool to have,I was wondering how Z-7 would do in it or if I would need a product made with more foaming ingredients .
 
RED JEWELL SS said:
Aw sum to know , I just bought a foam gun....just seemed like a good tool to have,I was wondering how Z-7 would do in it or if I would need a product made with more foaming ingredients .
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You can use any car wash soap in your foam gun. I just like Z7. I've also used Meguiars Gold Class Car Wash and Eimann Fabrik Shampoo. All work equally well. I haven't used any "cheap" car wash soaps in the foam gun. (I have a couple old gallons of "Cherry Suds" laying around from years back!:cornut:)
 
Conventional wash hands down for me. IMO ONR simply does not offer the cleaning power of traditional car wash soaps. However, ONR is great for a quick wash when the car is not really that dirty.
 
I like both methods and it ultimately depends on what shape the car's in to start with. You can't do a real dirty car with ONR... well, I guess you could with a two bucket method but I'd still be afraid of intilling some scratches.

The weather plays into this as well, nothing less fun than washing outside, with a hose when it's just above freezing... ONR make so much sense in those situations.

I really love ONR, I think it's a revolutionary product.
 
Roadrunner said:
. You can't do a real dirty car with ONR... well, I guess you could with a two bucket method but I'd still be afraid of intilling some scratches.
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You can wash a really dirty car with ONR..... BUT... you have to use a LOT of water and a wash mitt or huge microfiber that will hold a quart of water. I've done my vehicles with ONR when they were filty and covered with salt, mud and dirt. I used about 3 gallons of ONR/water for the job. (Outdoor winter wash).

For a filthy vehicle in spring/summer/fall, Ill do a conventional wash/foam gun every time!
 
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