Do you cover up SG with wax?

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jeff warden

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Hi all,



This newbie would like to thank all of you for your knowledge and enthusiasm!



I am in the process of using clay, AIO and SG for the first time. I washed the car with Dawn, used a clay bar on the finish then washed again. Next I polished with AIO two times. I just finished applying the first coat of SG which I will let sit for an hour or so and buff off.



My plan is to let the car cure overnight and apply two more coats of SG tomorrow.



Now my question. I think I have read that some of you wax the car after putting the last layer of SG on. Why is this? Does the SG need a "hard shell" protectant? If I do not use wax on top of the SG should I expect to need to reapply it in a few weeks?



Any free advice is appreciated. :p My preference would be to only use the SG and just keep reapplying it as needed instead of wax.



Thanks,



Jeff



P.S.

I am amazed at how much unseen gunk the clay bar removed from the paint. What a great technique!:cool:
 
No need to cover the SG with wax. Some people do it for effect in trying to obtain different levels of color, shine and gloss. Sealant glaze is more durable than any carnuba and doesn't need anything else for protection. Your plan is fine.
 
The only reason I use any carnuba on top of my Klasse layers is I love the wet look that it gives my car. Klasse is great for shine but for the wet look and for the depth in the shine you pretty much have to put a layer of carnuba on. The downside is that onec you start with the carnuba you can't add any more layers of SG. I have a dozen or so layers of SG and nearly that in carnuba. I love how shiney it is but this spring I'm going to strip it all off and start over again. Such is life. :) It is the journey that is the fun part anyway. ;)
 
The Klasse SG is your hard shell. Some need to get their carnauba fix and wax away. ;) Really the great thing about SG is that it provides a super awsome shiny "pallete" for you to put the natural wax of your choice. I mean we make Klasse look as good as possible by prepping the paint, now we make carnauba look as good a possible by providing it with a shiny durable canvas to work atop of (it tends to extend the carnauba also).



Depending on the color of your car you can really bring out the depth (and and add more beading) if you prefer its looks. The trusted suggestion is to not put a carnauba on unless you are 100% satisfied with you Klasse results.



Hope this helps - Steve
 
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Thanks Steve,

I guess that's the question I really wanted answered. Thanks.

This shot is from a few years ago. When I'm done polishing tomorrow I'll post the update. My back is sore!:cool:

Jeff
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Thanks Steve,

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Ok, so I'm an idiot.:eek: I see now the reply was from <strong class='bbc'>Jngrbrdman[/b] . Sorry 'bout that.
 
But even the best carnauba will only last a couple of months, Klasse can last for up to a year, so you can add it later. Some use Dawn to remove the carnauba (it doesn't remove the Klasse) and then you can SG. But many of us redo Klasse twice a year anyways.
 
The Klasse line is pretty darn good indeed. I've used it and I really like the results and the protection that it gives. However, I think that 6 to MAYBE 8 or 9 months of protection is more realistic. Still a minimum of 6 months is very impressive. Laters
 
My dad's car looks great with mulitile coats of SG. I would't even think of putting a carnuba over it (although I did try souveran over the hood and didn't see a difference). His only complaint is the sheeting....but perhaps he will get used to it.........
 
It didn't make a difference? Hmmm... strange.



How did you apply it? Thin "hazy" layers or thicker "wax-like" layers? I'm still experimenting with the Souveran and would like to hear from everyone what techniques gave you the good or "I-cant-see-a-difference" results.
 
I did the entire hood, thick enough to see the haze of the dried wax very easily. Temperature was about 65 degrees and sunny, and the car was in the sun. By the time I did the whole hood, it was dry and ready to take off. It came off easy, but not as easy as some people led me to believe. Perhaps I should not of done it in the sun, although the paint was cool, as it was a cool day and light colored car. Me or my dad couldn't notice any difference........the car was already shining very nicely..........
 
detailking - spread it out thinner, and buff it off BEFORE it dries all the way. That's what the instructions say and it works for me. One swipe of an ultimate wipe and it is buffed out completely. when I look at a reflection in the car, i can't see a difference. But when I just look at the car, it DOES look wetter/deeper with the souveran. I cannot explain this - you can't "see" anything specific - but it absolutely, positively looks better.
 
Thanks guys for telling your experiences from it. I guess a thin coat, immediately removed with a dry towel is best.



I cant wait to try it out and see how it compares to Paste Glaz (on light colors!)
 
first time I used Souveran I was skeptical I put it on, waited a little and wiped it off and I could noticably see my reflection in my silver paint, which is hard to come by. The reflection actually scared me, but that was probably just my face :D
 
Haha Steve. Frightfully handsome!



Actually, in my experience, Souveran does not increase reflectivity. The main effect it had for me was to darken/deepen/'wet' the paint. I applied Souveran to half my hood (base coated with SG) and did a comparison. Definitely looked darker but didn't do much in terms of reflectivity. It might have even diminished it. However, my paint is black and YoSteve's is silver so that's probably what caused the differing results.



Carguy, I agree. Definitely better to wipe before it dries off. I tried buffing it once after a haze formed and I got powdery granules all over the place. BTW, when you say it definitely looks better, do you mean a car that already has multiple coats of KSG looks better with the Souveran on top? I thought I read somewhere in a past post that you hadn't used Klasse yet. I could be mistaken though. :)
 
I just put the final coat of Blitz over my 4 layers of SG. I think Intermezzo330I using darken/deepen/'wet' the paint to describe the effect says it best. Not so sure about 'wet' but it might be the different type of wax. The biggest thing I noticed is when I thought the paint could not get any smoother, it did!! :D



My plan is to wash the car every week and then apply Blitz every six weeks. This should keep everything in top shape until I find a warm spring/summer day to try some Blackfire.
 
Your plan sounds fine. Blitz should very well last you 6 weeks or so. So yes, waxing every 6 weeks would be a pretty good idea.
 
I've had the AIO/SG combination on my car for about 9 months and plan on claying the car and starting over after the Holi-daze!



I've found that some Autopians like the additional warmth that a wax can give where as SG will give more of a glossy-reflective look. I get all the warmth I need from the Florida sun! I do use Clear Pearl as my QD spray, which does contain carnauba and find that it adds enough depth to make me happy. Being that my car is white (Cool White according to VW) I don't really see a difference with the quality of shine. Plus the extreme tempratures that come with the summer sun don't make wax a viable solution for me...too much maintenance.



I find that the Klasse treatment gives me the protection that I want and allows me to wash the car and bring it back to a wonderful shine quickly. My QD'ing then keeps away the majority of grime.



YoSteve has a point, though, in that you can simply Dawn your car and if the SG is in good shape, just keep adding layers.



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