Do Some Think That Detailing is an Easy

Beemerboy

Just One More Coat
Way to make cash by putting up some smoke and mirrors with all the fancy product talk and technical processes?

I was surfing Craig's List today looking at the local detailers ad's here in NO CA and some are running ad's that just don't make sense to me.

Some are very descriptive others are two lines with a phone number..some have prices others don't. Some have gone into great length about process and the fact that they use the BEST product known to man kind...like Rolls Royce or BMW wax is all we use....LOL

I don't know I've spent the last 6 years here in NO CA building a good solid reputation and customer base....its all be based on honesty about what I am doing and customer satisfaction. I'm happy to explain what I am doing and the reason for it...I like to leave the customer feeling like what I said is a proven method and not some smoke and mirrors.

Sorry I hate to rant on about this but it drives me nuts when I see some take such a false approach to detailing knowing what I go threw to get cars clean
 
dave the first link is to IGOR, I don't think i would like him coming to my house :lmfao . His name should be the 1st thing to change if he wants to market himself. How you market yourself determines your clientele then from there our work should speak for itself. I find that many people have no idea the amount of work is involved to produce a fine detail. I also find that many people don't under stand the process to produce a quality detail and on top of that you have joe smoe at the local carwahs undoing the information you have provided a customer and tell them that the process or products aren't neccesary.
 
I think that a lot of "detailers" and "detail shops" use a lot of fast talk and oily waxes, at least in my area. It's more about hiding poor paint condition than it is about remedying the problem. I have found maybe a handful of people in my area that are even remotely interested about proper paint care, so these hack guys get by with the crap they put out.

I don't let it bother me though, I know my vehicles are in pretty good shape. :)
 
JaredPointer said:
I think that a lot of "detailers" and "detail shops" use a lot of fast talk and oily waxes, at least in my area. It's more about hiding poor paint condition than it is about remedying the problem. I have found maybe a handful of people in my area that are even remotely interested about proper paint care, so these hack guys get by with the crap they put out.

I don't let it bother me though, I know my vehicles are in pretty good shape. :)

I think that your right most are talking the used car approach to detailing cover it up and hope the customer doesn't find out....it sure was that way with that one guy that you and I talked to....oh and by the way he took it back to the original guy and had him redo it...said that he was going to wait for a month and see if the swirls come back if they do he's going to call you
 
Another thing I noticed everywhere in the country, is that most successful shops could care less about the quility of their service. They push vehicles out as fast as they can, and if there is a complaint they have excellent customer service and take care of it. They market price not quality, and unfortuneately that hurts our business as REAL professionals.
 
every shop in my are does a 2 step polish the 2nd being a coat of wax.
Price $140.00 - $ 170.00.

people think the swirls are suppose to be there and many don't realize their there. As long as the car shines the wheels are clean their happy :rolleyes:
 
joe.p said:
every shop in my are does a 2 step polish the 2nd being a coat of wax.
Price $140.00 - $ 170.00.

people think the swirls are suppose to be there and many don't realize their there. As long as the car shines the wheels are clean their happy :rolleyes:

There are quite a few here using a cleaner polish and charge extra for a wax topper....I know this only because I know the distributor here for all the detail shops and what they are selling them....I got some to try and have to say it makes the car look great even by hand, and talk about masking the swirls they disappear....LOL
 
Beemerboy said:
There are quite a few here using a cleaner polish and charge extra for a wax topper....I know this only because I know the distributor here for all the detail shops and what they are selling them....I got some to try and have to say it makes the car look great even by hand, and talk about masking the swirls they disappear....LOL
Speaking of cleaner polish is the megs cleaner wax the same? That is what i tell people there doing and by the 6th wash the car will look like it did before the detail the only difference there out a $170.00..
 
joe.p said:
Speaking of cleaner polish is the megs cleaner wax the same? That is what i tell people there doing and by the 6th wash the car will look like it did before the detail the only difference there out a $170.00..

Joe I don't know much about Megs line I don't use any of it any longer..In the case of one guy that I was speaking of over the net (another site) he said that his BMW was detailed and after about a month all the swirls where back after 3 to 4 washes....I said that what they used was a product with fillers the car looks great when you pick it up but down the road they come back...I suspect that there are quite a few that do this practice
 
Beemerboy said:
I think that your right most are talking the used car approach to detailing cover it up and hope the customer doesn't find out....it sure was that way with that one guy that you and I talked to....oh and by the way he took it back to the original guy and had him redo it...said that he was going to wait for a month and see if the swirls come back if they do he's going to call you

Well, I'll be around if he needs me. :D Hope he gets it worked out one way or another, I hate to hear/see of such a nice auto in bad shape.
 
Detailing isn't a trade, it's an art, so it can't be easy. I study every car I work on, trying to pick out things that need attention during the detail. I'm constantly trying different products and mixes on cars so I can get the optimum results every time. It's one thing to detail a car, it's another thing to take pride in your work. I don't put up a lot of talk when I introduce myself to potential clients but I let them know that I know what I'm doing and I really stress that I'll do a better job than most any detail shop for how much I charge. I'm not out to make a lot of money, I'm in this business because I enjoy what I do and of course there's decent money to be made. It'll be more than enough to get me through school for the next few years but I'm definately looking at other options.

Another thing is that those who care about the work we go through while detailing come to people like us here at DC come to us for just that reason. I'd rather kick myself in the ass for not charging an arm and a leg and having an oustanding reputation than be doing very well and have an "average" reputation. I'm almost 19 and look like I just got my license so I have to put up a big talk with some people, I tend to look for clients who appreciate my work rather than someone who just wants their car cleaned

Dolan
 
I used to detail at a bodyshop, so the focus was to get the car clean from the shop dirt, etc. I never was trained to use a polisher (even though I have a random orbital), so I don't use them. I only clean my two cars and my mom's anyways.
 
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