DIY Power Washes, Home/Drive-In

crobinso

The Grand Marquis Man
No one here has mentioned using a power washer, whether it be the home variety or the kind at the drive-in car washes. There must be a reason for that, but I'm still a :newbie

So educate me. LOL

Charles
 
I think I'll pull up chair along side Charles here and listen in. I too would like to be "learned" on the subject of pressure washers.

I'm from the South so let me interpret that for the non-learned out there. When you are learn-NED on a topic that means you know about it. ;)
 
Well, I have some advice. DON'T go to the drive in power wash places. They use recycled water from the cars that have already been washed. That's just sickening. (Sorry, just finished detailing my car so I'm on my ranting period.)
 
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Well, I have some advice. DON'T go to the drive in power wash places. They use recycled water from the cars that have already been washed. That's just sickening. (Sorry, just finished detailing my car so I'm on my ranting period.)

Some do some dont. Try and find an employee that KNOWS (not guessing).
 
Yes, Some do use recycled water. Typically, there recycling system leaves the water cleaner than tap. You can tell really quickly if the water is filtered water ove rrecycled water by the smell. If it stink sit is bad.
A pressure washer can be use to wash your car. Pressure washing chemicals are typically really strong, and then people apply them stronger than is necessary, especially for a hand wash. This will strip you r wax off of the vehicle. Notice I did not say may, might or could. It will do it if the soap is too strong.
When we wash cars, we still mitt them, for the most part. ( I am talking we washed about 150 cars last night in 6 hours ) It is more efficient. For a single car, I would rinse any debris off first, mud etc. if you are going the wash route. I would mitt it and rinse.
At a car wash, you can bring your own mitt, and wash, but usually the meter will be running. The brushes are sometimes suspect, especially if they have plastic bristles. I know of a wash in my area than actually uses hair brushes. (the expensive car washing kind) I would still rinse them out really well if you are going to use them, becaus ethese are probably wha twill cause any swirls.

Now I am going to sit back, because someone will be along shortly to tell me that I am full of sh*t and don't know what the devil I am talking about. They might be right, I have only been doing this on a pro level for 15 years, this month.


Scooter
 
actually scooter I think you are right.
I dont think you are full of stinky substances :D
Most presoaksoap agents (as scooter said) are really harsh so I would skip them unless you are planning to wax again (bring your own soap and bucket). Most wash places dont mind you using a bucket and wash mitt if there are no lines or if you go at an off time.
 
Scooter said:
Now I am going to sit back, because someone will be along shortly to tell me that I am full of sh*t and don't know what the devil I am talking about. They might be right, I have only been doing this on a pro level for 15 years, this month. Scooter

That is just because after 15 yrs. of being successful, you have your wash bay w/a butt kickin' wash system that recycles water and that is why you smell :) :) :)

Someone provide some insight about pressure washer pumps-the good ones & the bad ones?
 
I dont go to the quarter carwash but I do use my pressure washer every day. If you are just washing your personal cars then why would you need one other than to maby clean your motor or clean your deck or driveway. Im mobil so I need it to wash. Shops not all of them use them to clean motors,fender wells, door jams and even the really dirty floor mats. I dont use any soap in the pressure washer there to hard on the pumps. I just rinse with it. The only down side to the pressure washer is that if your not careful or have the pressure to high you can blow off paint, trim or emblems. The worst that has happened to me I blasted a hole in my hand 5 years ago rinsing soap off them.
 
I am strictly a hobbyist. I use a pw to clean ONLY the under side of our cars. Even then I am careful not to use the highest pressure nozzles or use the highest water pressure setting. If I need to have the engine cleaned I will find someone that knows what they are doing. It is too easy to damage the electronics inadvertantly and much too expesive to repair. I have found that if I work carefully a pw is a good tool. It is important to recognize your individual limitations and not try to do too much with the equipment. I have practiced on other surfaces before I tried using the pw on vehicles. I'm not concerned about removing the wax. I can easily fix that. I am concerned about damaging the clear coat.
 
Scooter, You are full of stinky stuff!!!! Did'nt want you hanging around too long waiting for someone to say. You probably have some detailing to do, so now that I have said it you can get back to work :drunk
 
Well, I'll try and answer my own question. I have a lot of people say go w/a honda motor and a cat pump. Best combo-best longevity?
 
In my shop, we use the Hotsy ELECTRIC. 1300 psi/3gpm.

No cleaners run thru the machine.

Spray cleaner, dwell.

We use the PW on wheels, wells, jams and mats.

Jim
 
Someone provide some insight about pressure washer pumps-the good ones & the bad ones?

Mind you this is just my opinion but I have had experience with four different brands of pumps.
The first was a CAT pump. These pumps are excellent. Very durable and can take a ton of abuse. I ran one for four hours one time without knowing it, because it had a plate on the exterior come loose. When I discovered it I bolted it back up, put oil in it, and it ran for about another 5 years. The downside is that they are very expensive to repair. For a simple repack and a plunger or two, I can buy a complete new pump of another brand. For this purpose, the type of pumps that I was using run about $1200.
The second, and actually my preferred pump, is a General. Pretty durable. Can take a lot of abuse and are inexpensive and easy to fix. I don't know how long they can run without oil, but I have not tested that, yet! I do know that the model of pump that I use a TS 2021 lasts me about 8000 to 9000 hours before I need to replace it. The packings will typically last about 900 hours. That is for my uses, and what I do with it. If I shop I can usually pick one up pretty easily for around $325
Comets are the next. Many of their parts are interchangeable with the General pumps. This is good because they are not in as widespread use as the Generals are, meaning local distributors might not be stocking parts for this type of pump. Many of the people that sell them claim they are the toughest pump out there. My experience has been different. I can usually get about 2000 hours out of them before the oil seals go and lot water in. If this happens,I always replace the pump, because typically it is a harbinger of fun thigns to come, and I prefer not to be stranded.
The last that I used very briefly was an AR pump or Annovi Reverbi pump. I am positive that my experience was atypical, but I bought two of them at the same time, and they both failed within about 30 hours. (I was Not happy) For some reason they both popped out the head bolts, within about twenty minutes of each other, and the pumps were toast.

As for engines:
Honda, these are the engines I prefer and usually get about 4000 hours of abuse out of them.

Briggs Vanguard. These are pretty tough, I have gotten about 1500 to 2000 hours out of them, then the pistons and cams break. They might still run, and make power, with the broken pieces in place, but they are still broken. They also like to burn up the starter solenoid. They are easy to retrofit with an old style automotive solenoid, and they are much more durable.

Kohler: I have heard tons good about them. They are a little more expensive engine, and appear to last okay, but I have only had one machine that had one. The biggest problem that I had with it was that it leaked oil, and the starter solenoid burned up.

Onan, pretty reliable, but have not had one.

Hope this helps.


Scooter
 
Scooter I have had an AR pump on my Honda for five years now and all that I have had to do is rebuild the pump twice. That is runing the pump for a total of 4 hrs a day 5 days a week. I usualy buy the parts about 50.00 dollars and do the work myself. The only things to go bad on the motor were a spark plug wire, the pull start coard and the kill switch. Other than this nothing. I instaled a bypass valve that pumps water back into the tank so you always have cold water going through the pump. This keeps the pump from burning up.
 
I have heard that some people have had good luck with them. I personally have not, and I stated my experience. This was about 7 years ago.
It does help to bypass to a water tank. It saves a lot on the pump.
 
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