Different tires accept dressing better?

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White95Max

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I've noticed that cheaper tires seem to not accept tire dressings well. The sidewalls seem much harder. Is that just the tire compound or is the hardening caused by the sun/ozone deteriorating the rubber?



Are there certain dressings that you've found to work better on these harder tires? The Potenza RE950s on the Maxima accepted dressing so nice since they were pretty soft, but the "Supergard CRAP 100" tires on the Protege are very stubborn when it comes to accepting my WG tire gel.
 
IF you decide that WG isnto for you let me know I will take it off your hands.



Some tires have harder rubber and it takes longer ie multiple appliactions to get it ti absorb.
 
How about this theory? The crap tires are bought by people who don't give a crap, and never dress them, so they get hard and dried out.
 
I remember someone at the Poorboy's meet was asking Steve about that. He was saying BnB wasn't very durable and sure enought Steve asked him if he had Goodyears. The person said yes, and Steve was saying something with the compound material effects or hinders the tire dresssing.



I'm not so surprised with all the different kinds of tires out there that some would react to tire dressing/shine better then others. But then again i'm no tire expert :nervous:
 
Setec Astronomy said:
How about this theory? The crap tires are bought by people who don't give a crap, and never dress them, so they get hard and dried out.
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Well my crap tires are brand new and the previous owner probably bought the crap tires because she was selling the car so she didn't give a crap if there were crap tires on the crappy steel wheels and gave the car a crappy ride and didn't accept tire dressing worth a crap.
 
Well, that's crappy.



EDIT: Wait, if they are new, it may be some residual mold release on the tires that is inhibiting absorbtion of the dressing. Give them a little time or a good scrubbing.
 
Yes, I've found dressings to look different on different brands/models of tires. ( And they may look different on two different brands of moderate to expensive tires as well) It is a good rule of thumb to thoroughly clean and scrub them before each application.
 
I have a regular that has tires that wont shine for more than a day or two with Hyper Dressing no matter the dilution(i even tried undiluted). He doesn't care at all he just wants the truck clean so that he can get it dirty again. They're cheap tires by the way.
 
I scrubbed the tires really well with a tire brush and Mothers Tire and Rubber Cleaner the first time I washed it. After that, I've scrubbed them with car soap and a tire brush every time I washed them.
 
I have Avon M500's on my Impreza and the tire shines seem to last forever on them. My fiance' has some WalMart brand tires and theyare lucky to hold the tire shine a week.
 
White95Max said:
Well my crap tires are brand new and the previous owner probably bought the crap tires because she was selling the car so she didn't give a crap if there were crap tires on the crappy steel wheels and gave the car a crappy ride and didn't accept tire dressing worth a crap.
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That's funny! :lol :2thumbs:



Another theory: All tyres contain a polymer/wax compounded into the rubber to protect from ozone destruction. Different tyres have a different mixture of this compound...maybe more wax (cheaper than synthetic polymers) in the cheaper brands...silicone dressings may not like to be applied on heavy wax surfaces. (This is different to the mold releasing wax coating tyres are shipped with...its the wax that migrates to the surface through the process of 'blooming').
 
Time for a wheel/tire upgrade :D.





I had had problems with some tires, but mainly just ones with dryrotted sidewalls. Furthermore, I find gel not to work well with tires with the sidewall "lines".



Honestly, check out www.wheelguyz.com, www.wheelmax.com, or ebay for a set under $800 shipped (that's usually 17" wheels, tires, mounted, balanced, shipped with hardware).
 
GSRstilez said:
Time for a wheel/tire upgrade :D.





I had had problems with some tires, but mainly just ones with dryrotted sidewalls. Furthermore, I find gel not to work well with tires with the sidewall "lines".



Honestly, check out www.wheelguyz.com, www.wheelmax.com, or ebay for a set under $800 shipped (that's usually 17" wheels, tires, mounted, balanced, shipped with hardware).
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New wheels are at the top of my list. I plan on driving on these crap tires until November, then getting snow tires for these wheels. In the spring when the snow ends, I'll get a set of ASA JS1 16x7s, with some nice performance tires on those (205/45/16). I believe the wheels with Kumho Ecsta ASX All-season high-performance tires would be just under $800 shipped, after mounting/balancing of course.
 
I have NEVER been able to get tire dressing to look good on a tire with raised white letters. I can scrub them to hell with APC and a brush, get the letters nice and white, then I bring out a clean applicator and the letters are back to a dull stain again. The Goodyear Eagle GTII's on my truck have extremely smooth sidewalls, and a sort of 'dark line' that runs at the point of the sidewall bulge; not too fun to dress.
 
i say michelin has the highest shining tire by far in the industry and thats going back 5 years or so till this day.....nothing shines like a michelin!!
 
I've noticed differences too but the variables that affect dressing interaction haven't been "codified". I have not noticed any patterns but your general observations are a good start.
 
I'm starting to hate these tires even more now. I washed my car and applied WG Tire Gel to the tires before I left on Monday to go on a kayaking trip. I put my car cover on before I left. I got back yesterday, removed the cover, and I noticed that parts of the tires are getting back to the dull gray color, while others are still black. The PotenzaRE950s on the Maxima could hold the shine for a good 2 weeks. These tires just suck.



Oh yeah I drove my brother's Ford Aspire 5spd while we were on our trip, and that thing handles better than my Mazda. :( He has Pirelli touring tires on it, 10mm wider than stock. You know you need new tires when an Aspire can outhandle you! :hairpull
 
I'm starting to hate these tires even more now. I washed my car and applied WG Tire Gel to the tires before I left on Monday to go on a kayaking trip. I put my car cover on before I left. I got back yesterday, removed the cover, and I noticed that parts of the tires are getting back to the dull gray color, while others are still black. The PotenzaRE950s on the Maxima could hold the shine for a good 2 weeks. These tires just suck.



Oh yeah I drove my brother's Ford Aspire 5spd while we were on our trip, and that thing handles better than my Mazda. :( He has Pirelli touring tires on it, 10mm wider than stock. You know you need new tires when an Aspire can outhandle you! :hairpull
 
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