Detroit Abandoned Car Wash & Detail Shop Pics!!!!

David Fermani

Forza Auto Salon
Many aren't aware that Detroit is plagued with not only abandoned homes & commercial buildings, but also an extraordinary amount of Car Wash & Detail Centers. More than any other city in the world! My guesstimate would be that well over 100 currently exist. Most who live in the suburbs of Detroit don't have the pleasure (displeasure to many) of seeing these unique sites and that is why I've decided to pass along some pictures for people to digest. Because the city I live in (Grosse Pointe) is basically surrounded by Detroit, I have decided to take different routes to and from work when possible to capture some pictures and share. The message that this shares may be interpreted quite different to each person and that is totally understandable. I personally find in disparaging that so many businesses of this industry never had a chance to fulfill its dream resulting in closure. I am looking forward to hearing people's thoughts on these and will continue to update this thread when possible with more pictures. Enjoy!  


 


 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 





 
 
Great photo essay, David.   It's something I had not thought of documenting.


 


People from all over the world travel to Detroit to check out the city's "ruin porn".   Only a detailer would take pics of car wash ruins :D


 


I see places like this sometimes in Atlanta and wonder.... did the business have much of a chance in the first place?   Lots of people have gone broke opening a car wash/detail center/barber shop/sandwich shop/yogurt stand/whatever.   It's a tough business that looks easy on the outside.


 


If you get a chance to take pics of the inside of some of these places, that would be great to see.   Thanks for the pics so far!
 
There were a few places like this in Dayton around '06. Plenty of low cost shop space! Even now, in the Cleveland area, there are shops for 50cents per sq. ft. in decent areas.


 


Think: Detail shop PLUS retail outlet PLUS online sales. You do not always need a car to detail at those shops- ship orders.


 


But as my wife says, "Have fun being single in Ohio!" She seems to like the beach and 80 degrees we had yesterday. Darn! :)
 
WCD said:
There were a few places like this in Dayton around '06. Plenty of low cost shop space! Even now, in the Cleveland area, there are shops for 50cents per sq. ft. in decent areas.


 


Think: Detail shop PLUS retail outlet PLUS online sales. You do not always need a car to detail at those shops- ship orders.


 


But as my wife says, "Have fun being single in Ohio!" She seems to like the beach and 80 degrees we had yesterday. Darn! :)


 


Infuriating for me because there is literally zero affordable shop space for sale in my city and development fees are insane. I would buy up one of these bigger shops in a heartbeat.
 
Sad. Detailing is a luxury for a lot of customers. When you live in a place like Detroit, where you are likely underwater on your mortgage, and so many are unemployed, probably not an excess of disposable income
 
Where I live, those places near main street would be 2-3 $ per sq. ft. paid monthly + utilities + NNN (maintenance).  This is why we have 20 mobile guys for the one or two shops. No shops are actually what I'd call a place where I'd like to spend any time.


 


Once I retire, I have a few places in mind. There is enough luxery money here to run a shop, but need my retirement to get it going!
 
Oh man, if I lived around there I'd have to have one of those older buildings.  Here in OH I'm all about my home shop, but some of those buildings are treasures and I bet their basic infrastructure is reasonably close to what's called for.
 
Picture 11 would make a nice loft/shop!! Imagine waking up and overlooking a few cars :)

That said, there is no way customers would be willing to leave their babies in the hood. Insurance would be astronomical I bet. Plus you would probably
Get pestered by bums constantly. No amount of guns would make me feel the cars are safe there. Plus there is a risk of the state demishing the whole block anyways.

A few years ago we looked at finding an older building that needed some updating (not honers like the ones pictured here), and decided against it due to location and liability. They also wanted a pretty penny for rent/purchase.
 
jlb85- Yeah, the, uhm....security issues would indeed be a significant concern.  My primary concerns wouldn't be about the *cars*, if you get my drift.
 
I liked the Car wash/Barbour shop. Get your car washed and haircut at the same time. How could that have not worked out, lol.


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Add in Devil's Night to the mix. There is a documentary about Detroit Fire titled "Burn". Very sad commentary to a once prosperous city.
 
In 1980, there was a Ford plant in Pico Rivera, CA.  I was working for Hadley Auto Transport at the time in their rail yard, loading and unloading cars and trucks.  I bring up 1980 because two things happened that year that made a real difference.  


 


One, Ford decided to build the 1980 Thunderbird - a terrible car - I mean truly a waste of the earth's resources, but in line with the rest of their products outside some trucks.  The union was so disgusted with that car there was serious talk of a wildcat strike.  (A strike by line workers without the support of leadership.)   No one wanted to build that car and ask people to spend hard earned money for it outside of Ford management.  So, brand loyalty when down the drain.  Before that, if you'd driven a Datsun into that parking lot there was a decent chance you'd be taking the bus home.  After that, no one was happy, even the people buying the other cars but what were we supposed to do?  Waste our money on cars we knew weren't good?  Quality is always, always, always a management decision, Ford's decision cost them loyalty from everyone.  


 


Second, Ronald Reagan was elected and in the name of supply side economics, he got the top tax rate cut from 74% to 28%.  This gave people in that tax bracket an immense amount of extra income, which they used to build factories where they could make the highest return.  Ford came to the union and said, they'd like to modernize the plant and keep building cars in Pico Rivera, but they had workers in other places who'd work for a $1.25 an hour, so make a counter offer.  Obviously, there was no hope.  The factory and a lot of others left this country on the wave of investment money created by the Reagan tax cuts.  That's what de-industrialized America and of course, tanked the US economy.  Now of course, Reagan did a stimulus program by way of huge defence spending - the Ford plant re-opened as a Northrup Grumman plant for awhile - but that was unsustainable and shut down a again a few years later.  Reagan tripled the national debt trying to save the economy but they way they spent the money did nothing for the country itself, didn't better educate a work force, didn't modernize transportation, didn't rebuild and modernize energy production and distribution, etc. so the effect was short term and probably led to Bush Sr. being a one term President.


 


The point of all this is - an economy has to have a strong middle class with money to spend - the middle class creates the jobs by creating demand for goods and services.  You can supply the best detail shop ever built, with the best machines, best trained staff, best and most efficient water and power and if there aren't enough people with the money to use your service, you're wasting your time.  


 


Robert
 
bretfraz said:
 


If you get a chance to take pics of the inside of some of these places, that would be great to see.   Thanks for the pics so far!


 


Don't bet on it! My life is at risk just driving in these neighborhoods. Better yet getting out and walking into one of these hell holes. :) Maybe if I had a Police escort, but that's highly unlikely seeing they are only responding to murder calls. :) 


 
Paul Sparks said:
Would this be along the same condition as most of Detroit has fallen into ?


 


Pretty much. Most of Detroit is full of abandoned and burned down buildings and homes. There are areas where 50% of the block is missing homes (vacant land), 25% are burned down and the other 25% look inhabitable. 


 
weekendwarrior said:
Sad. Detailing is a luxury for a lot of customers. When you live in a place like Detroit, where you are likely underwater on your mortgage, and so many are unemployed, probably not an excess of disposable income


 


In retrospect, there's ALOT of really great things going on downtown and there's new life being pumped into places left and right. I won't say that I would want to live there, but living next to it is pretty awesome. 
 
On a related note, many of these places were hand-wash places. Now we have automatic touchless car washes. We have a lot more cars on the road today, yet look at all detail/carwash shops from not too long ago when there were less cars around. That's what higher labor cost do; they create an economic viability that allows technology to replace human labor. Just look at the robots used in the auto industry, including high-end auto manufacturers like Porsche and Ferrari, that do today what human labor did not too long ago. Is it any wonder why we have higher unemployment?


 


My point is this: There is a huge call to raise the minimum wage here in America. I know many dealership/detail business-employed detailers would enjoy such a raise in wage. That includes a lot of other minimum-wage workers in many types of business as well. But I point out that by doing so, you make it economically feasible to invent some technology that can replace you OR just do without your service. My other proof is in gas station attendants, or pump jockeys, as we called them when I was young in the 1960's. Most drivers today cannot even remember having someone else pump your gas, check your oil, and clean your windshield for you. Today we do it ourselves and don't even think of self-service as an inconvenience; it's just the way things are. So be careful what you ask for: the higher wage you enjoy now may obsolete your job in the not-too-distant future. I am sorry if this sounds like a political/moral observation/opinion TOTALLY unrelated to David's photo journalism of the sad plight of car wash/detail shops in the Detroit area. Those pictures makes you ask the question, "How and why did this happen?" Part of the answer is in the history of Detroit and its labor conflicts over wages of the past. We would all do well to learn from history, as it usually repeats itself. 


 (Note to moderator and OP: if this is too radical or opinionated, please remove it. I do not wish to offend anyone)
 
What is the point of a moral economic system if not to provide everyone a way to make a contribution and to be compensated for that contribution in such a way that they can meet their basic needs?  


 


We have become so much more efficient in production that workers have become redundant at rates not seen since the industrial revolution.  At some point we're going to have to re-think distribution of wealth and take into account the fact that we don't need anywhere near the number of workers we used to in order to produce more than what we need.  Maybe we should do what we've done in the past - raise wages and cut hours.


 


<span style="font-size:14px;">BTW, more money in the pockets of people at the bottom of the economic strata means more money is going to be spent and that money flows through the system like oil in an engine and keeps things running more smoothly. 


 


Robert
 
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