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shortd81

shortd81

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Does anyone here use automagic. Haven't heard too much about it here always seen everyone talking about AutoGeek and PB.

If anyone who has their own Professional detail shop use Auto Magic please let me know what you think of it.
 
There are a couple hard core automagic (AM) fans here. It is used by EVERYONE in my detailing world, so we went with boutique products, but...
-their detailing tools are the great, and the same as some other companies (lots of cross-listing going on)
-their clay is lovely, but too expensive here in Canada
-I love their carpet shampoo, EZ-Clean HD. I am less experienced on the interior, but it's the best I've found
-their wash soap is fine, but I found that the 2oz/5gal recommendationw as not enough. I used 2oz/3gal. I went with a local company for soap instead.
-their APC is fine, and easier to work with than ZEP, which smells really bad. I've gone with a local company because it didn't fix what I wanted fixed--hazing on certain alum rims and door jambs that have undercoating leaking into them.

So those are my thoughts.
 
shortd81 said:
Does anyone here use automagic. Haven't heard too much about it here always seen everyone talking about AutoGeek and PB.

If anyone who has their own Professional detail shop use Auto Magic please let me know what you think of it.
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SA Detailer is a fan of AM...........I talked to the regional rep in Texas some time back about becoming a distributor, but I'm not ready for that at this time....from what I have seen they have a whole line up of stuff much like Megs
 
I use/use to use AutoMagic. It is a very good and complete product line that is good for the professional detailer. I am actually wheening off the product since I am going exclusive and possibly a distributor. Like most suppliers you will find, there a some products that don't meet/fit your needs. Having been in business over 15 yrs we have tried many of the products out there and currently trying some new ones. We for the most part have been using AutoMagic and CarBrite for the last 4yrs, with a few specialty/premium products. It is tough, there are so many options out there and each one touts being the best, just remember it needs to work for you and your clients. Keep in mind what you are offering to your clients. Based on the service you are trying to provide will also influence your choices. If you are looking for suggestions in regard to actual product names from AutoMagic, let me know.
 
How do you get a hold of some of this stuff. I don't see any ordering options and I'm relluctant to leave information for a distributer.
 
Sparkleauto.com has some automagic stuff left ... they are not selling that stuff anymore due to automagics rules about selling online.. So everything is at under cost!!!



Hurry
 
I hate to be the only one to chime in here with a negative response, but I think that their products are in a different category then what you will normally see people using on this forum. Automagic, which I have been using at my full time job (not my part time on the side stuff) and I don't feel good selling people on exterior details. I think that it is ethically wrong to use there polishes when you could be using a REAL polish. I use Menzerna FP, IP, PG, Meguiars, 4*, and various others and all are in a seperate category in my opinion.
The polishes I listed above, and what you will see commonly talked about here, are ACTUAL polishes, they don't just cover up swirls, but rather actually cut through them. Also, some people may rather cover up swirls then cut through clear coat so the choice is up to you, and your customer. I've used 10 or so polishes from AM and I am just not impressed with any. On the other hand there cleaning chemicals (aside from glass cleaner) are good products, and cheap. Redhot and Special Cleaner are awesome APC's/degreasers. Hope this helps you make your decision
-Shaun
 
Don't let a few bad experiences change your mind on automagic. They make great products. Including their polishes and compunds. Remember, The detailer has alot to do with making a polish or any product work to its full potential. You can't compare hobbyist products like poorboys,wolfgang to automagic, its like comparing apples to oranges.
 
TrueDetailer said:
You can't compare hobbyist products like poorboys,wolfgang to automagic, its like comparing apples to oranges.
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Could you follow up on this? What do you mean, specifically.
 
PEI Detail said:
Could you follow up on this? What do you mean, specifically.
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Its a figure of speach, and i think it explains itself. If you don't get it, sorry. Don't really want it to turn into a debate.
 
TrueDetailer said:
Don't let a few bad experiences change your mind on automagic. They make great products. Including their polishes and compunds. Remember, The detailer has alot to do with making a polish or any product work to its full potential. You can't compare hobbyist products like poorboys,wolfgang to automagic, its like comparing apples to oranges.
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:lmfao :no: :bubba
 
TrueDetailer said:
Its a figure of speach, and i think it explains itself. If you don't get it, sorry. Don't really want it to turn into a debate.
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What I meant was: are hobbyist products by nature inferior? or because they are way more expensive in the US, are they by nature superior?
 
PEI Detail said:
What I meant was: are hobbyist products by nature inferior? or because they are way more expensive in the US, are they by nature superior?
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I think what he was trying to say is that the products from AM are great for the volume detailer and products such as PB are great products also, just not cost effective for volume detailing.
 
I had this discussion on Autopia and copy and pasted my responses here to give my opinion.

I have 777 APC, Magic Mist, Banana Magic Wax, and XP Swirl Remover.

I like one of them - their 777 APC. Their Magic Mist is ok too. But they are all mainly average products.

Their products aren't bad (I really like the 777), but there are much better in the same category when it comes to polishes, glazes, waxes, sealants and dressings for the home enthusiast which dominates this board. Even many of the professionals here who do this for a living, routinely post pictures of vehicles not used with AutoMagic products.

Other car care manufacturers don't need to load their product line with a supermarket of cheaper products which are loaded with fillers, silicones, kerosene and alcohol when they can produce better ingredient products than that. There's a reson why they are so cheap.

Meguiar's, another supermarket car care company make better products which can be purchased in the same size as Automagic.

The Banana Magic Wax has a bulk of the same ingredients as their XP Swirl Remover. I thought the XP was average - too many fillers. For a better look with fillers I prefer Vanilla Moose.

Read the chemical composition of these two products:

Banana Magic

XP Swirl Remover

After reading that (and the same on their bottles) I don't want a liquid wax that contains and shares a major bulk of the same ingredients as their swirl remover which is more of a silicone, filler loaded glaze. I was suprised whrn I read this. A swirl "remover" should have abrasives. This doesn't. There are much better quality ingredient liquid waxes than Bannana Magic (as well as swirl removers), making it (them) average in my book.

I am not saying they are "bad." They are average. They fit the bill for bulk, cheap chemicals for dealerships or high volume shops. That's why DC members (90% non professionals) who are die hard enthusaists and hobbysists, don't use AutoMagic.
 
PEI Detail said:
What I meant was: are hobbyist products by nature inferior? or because they are way more expensive in the US, are they by nature superior?
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Detailz has it close..

If anything your hobbyist products are probably better then some of automagics. Your hobbyist products are made for weekend warriors,enthusaists. Automagic is made more for high volume dealerships, and large detail shops. You can't put the two in the same class and compare them is what i ment.

Price don't mean anything. alot of people try and compare the "retail" to "wholesale". The whole saying " you get what you pay for " is not always true.
 
Spilchy said:
Read the chemical composition of these two products:

Banana Magic

XP Swirl Remover

After reading that (and the same on their bottles) I don't want a liquid wax that contains and shares a major bulk of the same ingredients as their swirl remover which is more of a silicone, filler loaded glaze. I was suprised whrn I read this. A swirl "remover" should have abrasives. This doesn't. There are much better quality ingredient liquid waxes than Bannana Magic (as well as swirl removers), making it (them) average in my book.

I am not saying they are "bad." They are average. They fit the bill for bulk, cheap chemicals for dealerships or high volume shops. That's why DC members (90% non professionals) who are die hard enthusaists and hobbysists, don't use AutoMagic.
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Thats a good find there on the banana magic, I knew that the swirl remover was nothing but a butt load of fillers. I had no clue about the banana magic. Guess its a good thing i don't use either of them on my retail customer cars.
 
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