Dealer's "paint protection" package.

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mrtonyn

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Hey guys...what is your thought on this? My neighbor just bought a nice black
300C SRT8 and the dealer sold him the paint protection package. Exactly what it is that they do or put on the paint? Are they using a more superior product than what we have access to?
 
Not sure what products they are using as each dealer has different vendors for things like that.

Most of the time it's a total waste of money. I know some that pay thousands to have the dealer seal the paint and then the dealer tells them to never wax it...... what a joke.

Josh
 
mrtonyn said:
.... Are they using a more superior product than what we have access to?
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I don't think they are using anything better than I have put on my car. I would take Klasse AIO or FMJ over any of their stuff and my technique will be far superior.

I too have heard dealers say not to wax. Someone back in the day started a myth that clear coat replaced waxing forever. :out:
 
don't even bother getting your car detailed by them. For the price they will rip you off you can by a lot of detailing products for yourself. You'll be better off doing it yourself, then getting a DISO (dealer installed swirl option).
 
I told my neighbor NOT to buy that

package...I know it is a scam for them to make easy money.
Someone had told me that it is nothing but a "glorified wax job" that they can easily charge up to $1000.00 for it....OUCH !!!
I could not convince my neighbor on saying NO...oh well, his money not mine.
 
mrtonyn said:
package...I know it is a scam for them to make easy money.
Someone had told me that it is nothing but a "glorified wax job" that they can easily charge up to $1000.00 for it....OUCH !!!
I could not convince my neighbor on saying NO...oh well, his money not mine.
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You could have done a premium detail job on his car for $1000!!!:D
 
Lifetime Paint Protection

Xzilon, Simoniz PTFE, etc There is no polymer, synthetic or natural wax, or after-market coating available that can provide a five year or lifetime protection to a paint film surface; this technology doesn't exist, read the fine print in the contract offered by car dealerships.

There is normally a clause that states you should return the vehicle for a "maintenance" application of the product (at 3 or 6 months intervals) failing to do this will void your warranty or the fine print will basically exclude every condition you could claim against

The primary protection provided for a modern water-based colour coat is a polythene paint that has a thickness of (127 - 178 ?) comprise a Primer coat of 2Mils (50 ?) a Colour coat of 1-2Mils (25 -50 ?) and Clear coat 2-3Mils (50 - 75 ?) An applied paint protection product is the entire barrier that provides protection for automotive paintwork besides the clear coat paint and this renewable barrier is probably less than 0.001Mil (0.0254 ?m)
 
mrtonyn said:
want to shut this forum down....for spreading the "truthindetailing" :D
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If any car dealer wants to challenge any of the statements made contact me at -[email protected]

Apparently one of my post ("Touchless Car Washing") was removed from another forum, although I was never challenged (I assume it touched a nerve) but I would not copyright any thing that was not true in this dog sue dog world we now live in (also the reason I put all that 'legalize' in my articles)
 
Jon - I pretty much agree with your statement because many dealers and their salespeople don't know how to "sell" the product and process. They just misinform people that are pumped up on buying a new vehicle. Some paint protection systems work great for some people as long as they are properly explained and walked through the do's and don'ts. I know of a very professional outfit in Michigan that does quite well at this and they train their dealers how to properly sell their product. glcompanies.com

This sort of treatment is the anti-christ to car care enthusiasts, but has it's place within the industry. It can definately be a lucrative business.
 
David Fermani said:
Jon - I pretty much agree with your statement because many dealers and their salespeople don't know how to "sell" the product and process. They just misinform people that are pumped up on buying a new vehicle. Some paint protection systems work great for some people as long as they are properly explained and walked through the do's and don'ts. I know of a very professional outfit in Michigan that does quite well at this and they train their dealers how to properly sell their product. glcompanies.com

This sort of treatment is the anti-christ to car care enthusiasts, but has it's place within the industry. It can definately be a lucrative business.
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It's a shame that car dealers don't train their operatives (like many industries, the short-term (or should I say short sighted view) is that proper training is expensive, and they are only there to sell and bolster their bottom line.

Thanks for the link, interesting. The only other company I know of that has a real paint protection product with a worthwhile gaurantee is Valugaurd
 
With regard to Simoniz.

Grab a copy of the warranty for this product, I will be surprised if you are not impressed with the wording.
One thing and one thing only indicates a manufacturers level of confidence in its prouduct/service....

Disclaimers:
I have no idea what the prouduct is, how it is applied and I benefit in no way from its sale.
 
Tom, the first time I posted information on Simoniz paint protection they sent me some information and a product sample, didn't in anyway affect my opinion.

As a 'word-smith' I'm rarely impressed with marketing hype, especially as in my younger (all right, very much younger days) I used to write copy for many car care and other products.
 
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