No big deal. Happens all the time
You can name the product, just no direct links
Zep has a following in the forum world
dawn liquid dishwasher soap
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No big deal. Happens all the time
You can name the product, just no direct links
Zep has a following in the forum world
I'm sure. They have a TON of products. They make a great aircraft wash that I used all the time. They also have a lot of really good spray cleaners and strippers. I used Zep Powerhouse to strip pnuematic de-icer boots on prop planes when it was time to re-seal them. Zep stuff is awesome - but generally pretty expensive.
Hawkeye_TDI
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Not to beat a dead horse, but...
Food for thought. Meguiar's has MSDS for all their products available online so I simply use them as an example. Proctor & Gamble (Dawn) also has their MSDS and ingredient lists available. Doing a side by side comparison of Meguiar's Deep Crystal Car Wax and Ultra Dawn Original, they BOTH use sodium lauryl sulfate as their primary surfactant/cleaning agent. Dawn also uses sodium laureth sulfate as a primary whereas Meguiar's uses Cocamido Propyl Betaine, a surfactant derived from coconut plants. The point is, it appears by and large that the main ingredients used for dish detergent and car detergent are the same. The difference is in the details. Dawn lists several more ingredients, among them sodium chloride and magnesium chloride, both salts. Meguiar's doesn't list all their ingredients in the MSDS. So when you argue about degreaser, understand that both car and dish soaps use the same one (at least based on the quick browse I did through Meguiar's MSDS sheets.) Furthermore, it only makes sense that Dawn recommends not using their product for anything other than its intended use. All companies do this, if, on the off chance that something unintentional and probably unlikely will happen, they can't face litigation. Just think of all the ridiculous warnings you see on chainsaws, toasters, blow torches, etc. Just use common sense when using these products. Yes, Dawn contains sodium chloride, and yes, it may corrode, but if you live where I do, your car is bombarded by salt to the magnitude of 50x the amount in Dawn every winter when the snow plows cover the roads in it.
Food for thought. Meguiar's has MSDS for all their products available online so I simply use them as an example. Proctor & Gamble (Dawn) also has their MSDS and ingredient lists available. Doing a side by side comparison of Meguiar's Deep Crystal Car Wax and Ultra Dawn Original, they BOTH use sodium lauryl sulfate as their primary surfactant/cleaning agent. Dawn also uses sodium laureth sulfate as a primary whereas Meguiar's uses Cocamido Propyl Betaine, a surfactant derived from coconut plants. The point is, it appears by and large that the main ingredients used for dish detergent and car detergent are the same. The difference is in the details. Dawn lists several more ingredients, among them sodium chloride and magnesium chloride, both salts. Meguiar's doesn't list all their ingredients in the MSDS. So when you argue about degreaser, understand that both car and dish soaps use the same one (at least based on the quick browse I did through Meguiar's MSDS sheets.) Furthermore, it only makes sense that Dawn recommends not using their product for anything other than its intended use. All companies do this, if, on the off chance that something unintentional and probably unlikely will happen, they can't face litigation. Just think of all the ridiculous warnings you see on chainsaws, toasters, blow torches, etc. Just use common sense when using these products. Yes, Dawn contains sodium chloride, and yes, it may corrode, but if you live where I do, your car is bombarded by salt to the magnitude of 50x the amount in Dawn every winter when the snow plows cover the roads in it.
Thanks for the research, Hawk. Like I said, I never had a problem with Dawn on cars for doing cursory hand washes except that it's pretty sudsy and difficult to make sure you've rinsed it all off. That, and the tendency for water spots to form if you don't do a follow-up spray shine. But because of the fears a lot of people have about dish soap, we went to the Zep stuff.
I would rather soak my skin/car in alcohol, rather then a known Cancer causing agent (Oxybenzone) that is in most all of your dedicated car wash soaps
Check the MSDS sheet on Meguiars Car Wash Soap :spy:
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Director BTW...I washed my car again yesterday using Dawn. Its still beading like crazy <
I have a phrase I coined you may get some use out of
"The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself"
Trouble :Innocent:
Yes, it was I :-B
I will leave you with another that I just thought of
"Don't take any wooden nickels"
Psalms 58:6
My enemies have set a trap for me
I am weary from distress
They have dug a deep pit in my path, but they themselves have fallen into it