Cyclo Power

Mike Phillips said:
Looks like I need to add one of these to my arsenal of tools. I've always wanted to try one, but after reading this thread, the tipping point has been reached for me at least.



Nice work as usual Anthony. :bigups





Mike
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Mike -

You might as well go on and get yourself a Cyclo - Scottwax broke down and bought a PC.



Foris
 
Whoa!! This is an active thread I see.........must be alot more interest in the Cyclo than I had first thought:nixweiss



Mike,



The Cyclo is a great tool and will last as long if not longer than your rotary. You will be very pleased with the results you get after a final polishing with a rotary. For instance I just did a Mercedes and some areas needed several polishing steps with my rotary and I finished with a finishing pad and some Light Cut which removed 95% of the swirls but also left soem real fine swirls. The Cyclo with the white pads and some FP handled them with no problem :up



Nick......Correct, slow sweeping passes are key to get the Cyclo's full potential out of it. Also the Cyclo CAN create enough friction to generate a fair amount of heat on the paint. It also helps to use the Cyclo in a set pattern instead of just random passes which ever and where ever. This increases speed and saves product.



Accumulator,



The Hi-Temps products do work well with the Cyclo but again the key is, as you note, to take your time. A rotary is much faster but the Cyclo will give great results as long as the problems are not too deep. I also like the Cyclo over the rotary when possible because clean up is a snap:)



For those questioning the yellow pads.......they look real aggressive but they are just a level or two above the green pads and after a few uses almost feel softer or just as soft as the green pads. I just received from Irene at TOL some 4 inch "microbuf" buffing pads. I will try these out tomorrow and give you all my feedback on how they work with the Cyclo.



Gonzo.........So sorry that I sent you over the edge..:D



Thanks to all for their compliments on the X5. Came out very nice and the owner loved it.



By the way........DACP works great with the green pads!



Adios,

Anthony
 
I haven't decided if my next purchase will be a cyclo, rotary or the Makita PC/rotary (Makita Bo6040). Still waiting for Mike to review the Makita.



Nice write up and pictures, Anthony. BTW, kind of sucks when you put a lot of work into something and the person needs to leave the instant you finish so you can't get pics. Oh well, as long as you get the $$$ right? ;)
 
Scottwax said:
I haven't decided if my next purchase will be a cyclo, rotary or the Makita PC/rotary (Makita Bo6040). Still waiting for Mike to review the Makita.



Nice write up and pictures, Anthony. BTW, kind of sucks when you put a lot of work into something and the person needs to leave the instant you finish so you can't get pics. Oh well, as long as you get the $$$ right? ;)
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Amen Brother! Speak it:bigups



I never use my PC.....It just sits in a box in the back of my truck taking up space. I may sell it and put that money towards another Cyclo. They also make an air driven Cyclo that I am told has a bit more umph to it than the electric model. More power is always good:shocked



Anthony
 
Most of the cars I do are in decent shape, especially the regulars, so the PC is almost always more than adequate. Still, I do run across some that need a lot more work so yes, more power is always good!
 
Scottwax said:
I haven't decided if my next purchase will be a cyclo, rotary or the Makita PC/rotary (Makita Bo6040). Still waiting for Mike to review the Makita.
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I tried the Makita out on the 1956 Ford F-150 I buffed out last weekend and so far, I don't like it.



The Dual Action drive seems to be much stronger than the Porter Cable's which can be good and bad, I was noticing a lot of micro-marring.



The rotary function was hard to control? At least harder than a normal rotary. It can be controlled, it's just seems to want to walk around a little.



It's bigger, heavier and using it with one hand would be impossible. The pad attachment is different than a PC and the backing plate it comes with is too wide potentially making it dangerous if your not careful.



I stopped using it after doing one half of the hood because this truck isn't the kind of truck I tend to experiment a lot on.



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Mike
 
Thanks Mike! If you can get the Makita to work satisfactorily (is that even a word?), let me know. Otherwise I'll be getting a cyclo or rotary next.
 
Scottwax said:
Thanks Mike! If you can get the Makita to work satisfactorily (is that even a word?), let me know. Otherwise I'll be getting a cyclo or rotary next.
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Scott -

You might as well get both the Cyclo and the Makita 9227 Rotary.

Ops - I better get out of here and make some $$$$.
 
As Anthony said, the yellow Cylco pads aren't all that aggressive. I would *always* follow Cyclo cutting pad work with something milder anyhow, so I'm OK with the Cyclo brand yellow pads from TOL. Anthony's right, they wear sorta fast, becoming less aggressive after a little use (using aggressive products on hard paint might explain some of this). Oh, and they make great cushions under MF bonnets. MF bonnets on the Cyclo work great, though you have to swap them out for clean ones pretty often- the combination of small size and effectiveness mean they do get loaded up.



The 4" white pads from CMA (as per Intermezzos's) link *look* very nice, but I haven't tried them yet. At least they aren't covered with velcro slubs, though they do have a few. These pads are thicker than the Cyclo white pads, and are slightly different in texture. Not really more/less aggressive feeling, just different. They *do* give me the impression of being of higher quality than the Cyclo pads.



Anthony- I'll be interested to hear what you think about the MicroBuff pads. I've tried them and...well, I'll wait to see what you think so as not to color your expectations.



I still find places I just can't get to with the Cylcos, so I'm not gonna give up my PCs quite yet, but I know what you mean about the Cyclo being your "go-to" polishing tool :xyxthumbs



Heh heh, seems like six months ago you and I were about the only people talking up their Cyclos, I share your surprise at how many people are interested in them.
 
I just reeceived a couple sets of the white CMA pads as well as the orange ones. I'm curious to try the orange ones , as I actually liked them on the PC. I personally feel the Cyclo white pads are kind of on the soft side comparesd to the CMA/LC pads. Should be kind of interesting to compare them with the same products. Won't be able to do that till Monday probably. I'll let you know how it works out.



It's weird when I go to the PC after using the Cyclo. I feel that I'm just pushing product around with the PC whereas with the Cyclo I KNOW I'm working it in. It's hard to explain, but it feels that the Cyclo has, for lack of a better word, torque and bite.
 
Accumulator said:




Anthony- I'll be interested to hear what you think about the MicroBuff pads. I've tried them and...well, I'll wait to see what you think so as not to color your expectations.
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I used them today on that M5 I am detailing and while I liked the result they shed like crazy.......hundreds of tiny white fibers everywhere and they basically fell apart on me after only one side of the car.



Its like they are just a tad too large in diameter and they cut into each other as the heads spin. I may have to see if I can't talk with the maker of these pads and see if they can remedy that.



Anthony
 
CMA, TOL,* Autopia* (hint hint) :



It would be a great idea to sell the full line of 4" LC pads, certainly looks like the market of potential buyers is growing :up
 
Anthony Orosco said:
I used them today on that M5 I am detailing and while I liked the result they shed like crazy.......hundreds of tiny white fibers everywhere and they basically fell apart on me after only one side of the car...
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Yep, that's what happened with mine too, they fell apart in no time. Unlike you, I didn't even like how they worked! Too mild to remove anything significant, but too rough for final polishing. For me they were a total wash-out.
 
I am going to talk with Irene about the durability issue of these micro-buff pads. They seemed to work fairly good with the IP but I was really upset they fell apart.



The larger ones for use with the PC or by hand I also do not use on paint but they work nice for cleaning leather and vinyl:xyxthumbs



Anthony
 
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