cutting pad + #80&83

zamac_man

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This is using a PC. I have these three pads and meguiars #83 and 80. I have been out of this for a while, so I am not sure which one is better for swirls.



I don't have any good pictures, but swirls are pretty bad. I have gone over it once about 2 years ago with the polishing pads above and 83 and 80. That did not help it much, but I probably messed it up worse. I did not clay first, and the paint was real non-smooth for a while, then the polish would smooth it out.



Anyways, would a cutting pad plus #83 or 80 work better. Or will I need a different compound too? Or should I just clay, then try that stuff again?



These pictures don't look that bad, but its kinda bad.

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Just browsing and found this paint That is about what mine looks like. I don't want a rotary, afraid of messing something up. I can't really aford much, but maybe a 10 pad.
 
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You should use clay once a year even if it does feel smooth, a cutting pad takes out defects better and faster and a polishing pad makes your car shine better. One thing about polishing is watch out for contaminates that can interfere with your polishing. Once you have the surfaces free of any contaminates and have a clean pad use a polish that says it can remove swirls, use a cutting pad, after you are pleased with it use a polishing pad to bring out a better gloss or shine. Work at one section at a time on your car using a bright light to see any defects and polish out in till all the defects are gone. Most polishes out there brakes down to more of a finer polish the more you use it so you might have to apply it more then once per section?

Some paint needs glaze to bring back oils to the paint to bring out the color also glaze can help in some of the imperfections in the paint too what the eye cant see but it is best to polish the imperfections out rather the cover up because it look a lot better. Specially dark colored such as black and red as yours is.
 
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Meg's doesn't recommend using the cutting pad with a PC, but plenty of people do it without problems. But only use it with the #83. The #80 is too mild to take any advanage of the cutting pad and you'll just get marring from the pad. Stick with a polishing pad for #80.



People have been getting good results with aggressive products from Hi-Temp (available at TOL ). Their Heavy and Extreme Cut Levelers apparently work well by PC.
 
I think you have plenty of good information to go off here. The only thing I can add is that #83 DACP is as strong as a compound/polish I'd use via PC...even then you have to follow up thoroughly with #80 and a polishing pad to remove the marring from the #83.
 
but with a cutting pad, do I have any hope? I have already tried #83 with a polishing pad and it did not work that great.



Also, where is a good place to buy a cutting pad?
 
Via PC, I like the Yellow Sonus SFX available from Autopia. It is quite firm, allowing to exert a lot of pressure. If this combo (with #83) doesn't get the job done in a reasonable abount of time, you're gonna have to find a rotary.
 
The only way I can do significant correction via PC is with a 4" pad. The lighter weight allows you to apply more pressure without the PC merely jiggling.



You might look into the Hi-Temp line from TOL . They have more aggressive stuff than the #83 that'll still work with the PC.



But I'd try some 4" pads first.
 
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