CR Spotless cost to use, worth it???

Beav:



Thanks for the input. I have no way of knowing what the TDS of the water at my house is.



From looking at the size of the replacement filers for the DI300 both are about the same size (DI300 is 20"). But no one debates that a DI300 will process 300 gallons of water before the cartridges need to be replaced.



Does 2" give me 200 more gallons of water according to those formula's you have?



I don't have a water spigot in the garage at the townhome where I live so I use two 25 gal water tanks and a transfer pump to supply my PW.



So I'll have a better idea than most people how much water was DI-Ionized before the tanks are up as opposed to using free flowing water from a garden tap.



While the CRSpotless system is more snazzier, I may just give this local place a shot and see how much water does get DI-Ionized before the tanks run out. Then I can use that as a basis for making a decesion between the two.



Sorry for the long response
 
I just don't want you to pay for something you are not getting and only share my experiance. I too started out with half cubic foot tanks and moved up to 1 cubic foot tanks and finally settled on 1.5 cubic tanks. Two of them in series produces 3 times more water than one tank alone. Regenerated resin after the first regeneration loses about 30% of its exchange capasity and then every time it is regenerated thereafter is loses more capacity all the way down to 50% or less untill they replace their "float" resin which is what you will be getting. I would call US Filter or Ionics just to verify before you go with them.



It is not just 2" more of resin. The cartridges used by cr are only 4.5" in dia. and 20" in length. Two of them together only give you 1/3 of a cubic foot of resin. That is less than your 1/2 cubic foot that you are talking about. However, you are getting brand new resin and not regenerated. Resin capacity is a mathematical question based on input water TDS. It can only exchange so many ions before it exhaustes and has to be replaced or regenerated. Like I said I only get 600 gallons out of 3 cubic foot of resin.



Sorry but I have done lots of research on this and am kind of anal about spending my hard earned money but I can't live with out DI water anymore and just want to help those if I can share what I have learned. Just my two cents and if you want me to shut up I will.
 
I'm trying to learn from what your saying, as it does seem you know something on the matter. At the very least more than me.



So no one here is asking you to "shut up" and I've re-read my posts in the thread to make sure I'm not implying that.



Anywho, these guys are one of two companies supplying Di-water in Rochester NY and out lying areas, so the purchasing manager says they seem pretty reputable.



Looking at it from the things your saying, there isn't any company that can guarantee how much water the unit will process without testing the water first.



I'll call the sales guy again tomorrow and ask if they use regenerated resin in the tanks or is it new.



Thanks for the tip
 
I just meant that sometimes I get long winded when I get going. I wish you the best of luck in making the right decision.
 
Decision made!! :D I placed an order for the 100 gal, wall mounted unit along with an 8 pack of replacement cartriges.



Here are my "personal" reasons for those out there who may be in the same situation as me.



1) Psychologically you are having difficulty making a decision because you are paying

big $$$ for tap water :shocked

2) Once you get past reason #1 and realize that it is not the water or filters you pay for, but the convenience and pleasure a spot free rinse (hopefully, ill let you know how it works for me).

3) I went with the 100 gallon and 8 pack because it, initially, is cheaper $316 for 500 gallons. I consider this an experiment and did not want to splurge any more until I am really satisfied.

4) I want to mount the filter unit on my pressure washer, therefore the smaller unit also makes sense.

5) I have yet to read any bad reviews about the product or company, kudos to CR for this.

6) 5% discount for "roadfly" members should pay for shipping.

7) Renting, per my previous post, was way too expensive.

8) I have a two story house and can clean my hard to reach windows too! :D

9) My Harley has way too much chrome and di water should be a blessing.

10) Simple fix to reducing the gpm out of my gas pressure washer, reduce the engine speed, duh!



Thanks to all of you for your input. :bow It was really helpful and I hope it will help others trying to make the same decision.



Aloha,

Charles
 
charlesu:



Makes sense to me, good luck with it and let us know how it works out. I'm going to rent some tanks from a local supplier and see



a) how well this DI-water works for washing cars



and



b) just how much water I will use per filters
 
Beav:



No probelms dude, we're all long winded at times. I found out today I don't have to pay the $45.00 regen charge till I swap the tanks out, and I don't get billed the monthly $10.00 initially either.



So even if it takes 3 months for me to go thorugh the tanks that's still only 30 bucks to test drive the system.
 
charlesu said:
Decision made!! :D I placed an order for the 100 gal, wall mounted unit along with an 8 pack of replacement cartriges.



6) 5% discount for "roadfly" members should pay for shipping.
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How do you get the roadfly member discount? Make an entry in the comments section?



Thanks,

Jeff
 
Jeff,

I called CR and asked them if there were any discounts. Roadfly, Porsche club and some other club are offered the discount. They told me to enter my membership number in the comment box when I placed my order.
 
The other club is BMWCCA and I asked them about Autopia and they said if they start getting calls asking about it they would consider. I don't know if I can wait.



Good luck Morbid and let us know your results about output.
 
Beav:



Thanks dude, I finalized things again w/the rep along the lines of what you told me. He said while I may not get 1000 gals of output he's certain I'll get over 300.



Big swing, yes?



I also asked about the regen process you were mentioning and the guy said that yes there is a limit to how many times they can recharge the resin before they toss it and fill the tanks with new stuff.





valuable info, thanks again for you input.
 
charlesu said:
Jeff,

I called CR and asked them if there were any discounts. Roadfly, Porsche club and some other club are offered the discount. They told me to enter my membership number in the comment box when I placed my order.
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Thank you very much. I'll probably order one soon.



Jeff
 
charlesu said:
Jeff,

I called CR and asked them if there were any discounts. Roadfly, Porsche club and some other club are offered the discount. They told me to enter my membership number in the comment box when I placed my order.
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Thanks again for the discount tip. My filter arrived today. Hope to try it out this weekend.



Jeff
 
Remember that the gallons of DI water actually output from the CR system before a cartridge change is needed is just an estimate. The ultimate output quality of your DI water will be based on your input water's current state (pH, hardness, total dissolved solids, etc.). If you have hard water to begin with, you will get a much shorter life out of the DI filters.



If you do have hard water, and don't already have a water softener, I would recommend you get a soft water filter system similar to this http://www.bojifilters.com/. It uses a resin based filter that can be regenerated with a brine solution. You would install this setup as the feed to the CR system.



This water softener alone (no DI system attached) provides me with about a 90% decrease in water spotting when drying my black Audi vs. my standard tap water.
 
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