Concourse Rebuilt 911 S Targa

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jcattarulla

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Hey friends!

By now you know what a fanatic I am, but with a stock 2001 BMW 325 ci concoruse events are out of my car's realm, although I have won a few amateur events, locally.



So this past weekend I put down a deposit on a 1972 Porsche 911 S Targa, which is being completely custom-built for me, from scratch. A friend of mine rebuilds these cars from as many as 300 different cars' parts (all OEM originals from 1972), but he does make some minor modifications:

-New brembo brakes

-Bilstein shocks

-Modern CD player

-Modern AC unit

-Longer custom-made piston rods to create the high-compression "S" engine, which blows out an additional 50 horsepower.



So psyched! I am going to photo-document the entire process, from raw chasis to finished product.



Since it's being built entirely from scratch, I can choose every single inch of the car, from paint, to leather, to headliner, etc. I am thinking either light yellow with black leather or steel grey with black leather.



Any suggestions on other "mods" to include? I like the "original" look best, so not going to do any bling bling nonsense like a Louis Vuitton pattern seat, but what about other stuff, that I can FEEL when I drive?



I plan to tool around in this car on weekends and enter it into concouse events.
 
Just a word of caution, check the rules of the concours regarding modifications. Many look down on things like Brembos, CD players, etc. In fact, you can lose points for it. Purists say, if it didn't come on it from the factory it has no place at a concours.
 
Yea, I kinda of know that, but the events for me are really more for fun- just to participate and meet other enthusiasts is enough. I'll trade losing points for the thrill of driving a slightly "souped-up" version of the original...
 
Well, depending on the rules, certian Modifications will disqualify you from competing at all in a "standard" class. I've seen some shows where if you have *any* Mods your not welcome. Point of the story is, know the rules before entering, and be aware you will be deduced points. :)
 
Also, you may find yourself feeling profoundly conflicted. Sounds like you have two competing (and perhaps mutually exclusive) goals: be a concours competitor and/or get a jazzed-up '72 Porsche. I'd suggest you PM BradB to be sure he weighs-in on this discussion.



Me, I know I'm having a real conflict with the white Jag. It was restored without the factory vinyl top. I love the nice, clean, sleek line. But now I have become a concours junkie. And we're getting big-time non-authenticity deductions for the roof. As a result .... now I'm looking at big-bucks to install a roof to return her to "authenticity."



Also weighing in on my decision is the thought that someday I may want to sell her. (Don't faint, Accumulator!) If so, and if I want her to be attractive to serious collectors, any non-authentic modifications will reduce her value.



Only you can decide which way to go on this.
 
I wouldn't think that you would even be able to enter if you have a highly modified car. Actually, it would look kind of funny surrounded by 100% pure cars. I would forget the concourse shows and just enter it in other types of shows. What is the point of entering in a show that you could very well be disqualified from before you even are able to register? If you aren't building a concours car then why enter it in a concours show? It would be like entering a 100% original bone stock car in a highly modified class show. Just because you have a shiney and car show quality car doesn't necessarily mean that it is appropriate to enter it in every kind of car show out there. Thats just a thought. You will probably clean house in a modified class car show. Concours shows are purist shows and even changing the stock rim size can cost you points I read. Don't set your car up to be lauged at by purists who are going to say that it doesn't belong in the show. Honestly, with the modifications you are going to put in it I wouldn't think they would let you enter anyway. Just the CD player is probably going to be problematic.
 
That is one great project you've got going there but like others mentioned make up your mind what you really wanna do with the car. If you plan on modifying the car you should probably keep the mods period correct.





[:dreaming:] Custom paint job, hmmm... [/:dreaming:]
 
I haven't done a concours yet so I'm not 100% sure of what judges look for but you might want to consider this.



Take a look at the Porsche Club rules for concours, I believe there will be several classes in which you can enter including stock and modifieds. Realize that if you put a stock looking car in modified class you will have a hard time doing well but if you're only doing it for fun then it doesn't matter. Now if you decide to go the extra mile and get polished this and that and make the undercarriage and engine look phenominal then you might do well.



If you decide to stick with stock class after looking at the concours rules then only make easily reversible modifications to the car. Also find out what the original interior and exterior colors are so the car is "Correct". If the car still has the original engine definitely use it as matching numbers count!



My example............my car is completely stock including paint, engine and interior. I've changed my lights and wheels, street class MB concours allows for lighting changes but the wheels have to go.



I guess in the end, get the car the way you want it and enjoy it. Just keep in mind that if you want to do concours you should set a path and goals so that you can still enter the car.



Good luck, sounds like a very very fun project. :xyxthumbs



I hope to do similar with a Austin Healey 3000 MKII.
 
jcattarulla - As Lynn said, your goals MIGHT be mutually exclusive but you should be able to find out what the Porsche folks do/don't allow. There are SOOO many modified 911's out there that I can't imagine you'd actually be "unwelcome" with your built-to-spec ride.



As for mechanical modifications, I STRONGLY suggest that you do some research on those rear-engined beasts. Study up and then DRIVE some modified 911's (yeah, this might be a big hassle, but, *I hate saying this* trust me on this). It's one car that can be a TOTALLY different experience depending on how it's set up and you don't want to find out your preferences AFTER you spend the big bucks. Suspension-wise, for instance, I'd say the choice of shocks is about the LEAST significant concern. For me, part of the fun of such projects is the research and planning, making sure I get it right from the git-go. Sounds like you're in for a great time- what a neat project!



Lynn- Sell the XJC? SELL it? The way SOMEONE sold his XK150? You people :D
 
Yeah, I know, Accumulator. :( But some days it's a kinda love/hate relationship. However, after a long detailing session with her last night, it's love all over again. :up
 
Ah, here's that thread. I didn't subscribe to it and couldn't find it. I usually leave this to Lynn ;) but I'll suggest that maybe it oughta be moved to the Car Ownership forum or somewhere.



jcattarulla - I really hope you'll keep us apprised of the project. Heh heh, vicarious fun for some of us.



Lynn- Yeah, I'm just teasing you and Brad. I've sold a LOT of cars that most people would've kept forever (including MY XJC). My XJS is a keeper in part because it's a time-machine, every time I sit in it it's the summer of '85. And for me, that was a very good year.
 
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