Comparing FMJ, Wolfgang, Waxing Frenzy

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Anthony O.

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Well I have received everything I have been waiting for. FMJ kit, Finishing Touch Glaze, Waxing Frenzy (plus the vinyl dressing and metal polish), Wolfgang Sealant and some Victoria Crusin Wax.



I will leave the "Cruisn Wax" out of this testing.



Well we once again had some ugly weather here in South Texas so I ran the wife's minivan to the local coin-op and washed her down. When I got home I cleaned just one door, passenger door, with some Cleansing Lotion and I then layed down two strips off paint that then made 3 small panels on the door.



On one panel I applied the FMJ per directions with nothing underneath it cept the Cleansing Lotion. FMJ goes on very easy and wipes off just as easy. No streaking and no residue.



Wolfgang came next on the middle panel and just as I expected it went on very easy and came off with ease.



Waxing Frenzy then went on the third and last panel. It also goes on very easy but reguires a little longer for its bonding time, just 3 to 5 minutes. It also wipes off super easy.



So in the application and removal process all 3 would score equally, the only drawback to WF would be the extra minutes for bonding but that's really no biggy.



Now in the appearance area my hat would have to tip towards the Wolfgang. Our minivan is a Teal color and while I took some pictures they are hard to tell anything by because of the really overcast skies. But what the camera could not pick up the naked eye could and the Wolfgang had a "slight" edge over the other two. The next best in appearance would go to the FMJ but only by the slightest edge over the WF.



The Wolfgang (WG) also had the slickest feel to the paint after it was buffed off. I mean VERY slick. A great difference between the WF and the WG in this category. FMJ is slick also but the WG is ever so slightly slicker.



I then took a full 2 cups of water and poured it over the door. I did this to see how each sealant sheeted water and the FMJ sheeted it best with the WG (which also gave some beading) a very close second. WF sheeted well but also had more beading. All 3 dried off SUPER easy so a big :up to all 3 in this category.



I dried the door with a WW towel and noticed once again that the WG was far slicker than the WF and a tad slicker than the FMJ.



Now I tested them for cleaning ability. I cleaned the top of our washing machine and applied 4 Sharpie lines on the top lid. I allowed then to dry for 15 minutes and then rubbed them with my hand, nothing came off. First up was the FMJ on a MF applicator pad and it did not touch the line nor smear it.



Next up on the second line was the Wolfgang. It did remove and smear the Sharpie marker line.



Next on the 3rd line was the Waxing Frenzy and it also removed and smeard the line.



The fourth line had the new Liquid Souveran applid to it and guess what? It did not remove nor smear the line, which is cool to me anyways.



Well I will put these products, plus the Victoria Cruisn Wax, through more testing and use as the week goes on......if the RAIN WILL EVER GO AWAY!!!!:angry



Thank You,

Anthony
 
Thanks for the reviews Anthony!



Have you tried AIO instead of the WG cleaner/prepper?



Where would you put WG next to UPP and EX-P?
 
Nice review, Anthony! I have been very pleased with WG too. In fact, I am resizing pics right now for uploading!



Too bad about the rain down there. Not a drop here, in fact the skies cleared tonight with a beautiful full moon! It was supposed to rain Saturday, Sunday and today but partly to mostly sunny all three days. Storms forecast for tomorrow, but they've been wrong 3 days straight so far....
 
Scott, GSR,



Thanks.



I just cleaned the fender and applied UPP and since I have not used UPP in some time I forgot how easily the stuff spreads, very smooth:)



The WG though is still slicker though and it seems that the FMJ is a notch above the UPP in that area also. The UPP though does put a great shine to the paint and under the garage light is looks great. I'll have to wait for a better day weather wise and car color to get a better opinion on that.



Scott if we keep having crap weather and you keep having nice weather I just may move there:eek:



Anthony
 
groebuck said:
So Anthony are you saying FMJ and Wolfgang's require no cure time - like an AIO wipe on wipe off?
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Yes, the WG and the FMJ only need a short set time, usually just until the product hazes. The Waxing Frenzy is said to need between 3 to 5 minutes for bonding and UPP needs about 30 minutes.



I wiped the FMJ on and let it set up for a minute or so and the WG I worked into the finish until it was almost all gone or evaporated and then wiped it off.



The Euro version of the FMJ is white while the USA version is almost pink in color, which is rather odd, perhaps Americans need color?



Adios,

Anthony
 
gracias ( hope your not in the "oh god it's hailing" area of tejas!)



I have been itching to try wolfgangs - think I may have to give it a whirl!! :)
 
Anthony,



Thanks for the great review! I have a question. You said the wolfgang removed some the sharpie marker. Was this the worlfgang sealant, or pre-cleaner you tested? If it was the sealant, are we to assume that it is not layerable?



Thanks again.



Bill :up
 
BillNorth said:
Anthony,



Thanks for the great review! I have a question. You said the wolfgang removed some the sharpie marker. Was this the worlfgang sealant, or pre-cleaner you tested? If it was the sealant, are we to assume that it is not layerable?



Thanks again.



Bill :up
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It was the Sealant so it makes one wonder if it is layerable. It may not be a strong enough cleaner to adversely effect the first layer but this of course can only be specualted upon. I may do one panel of a car with one layer and then another panel with multiple layers and see if there is a noticable diference.



Thank You,

Anthony
 
I too was a big UPP fan, but since there just aren't enough hours in the day to accomplish everything, I'd say Wolfgang has the edge. Its just too cool to wipe it on and wipe it right back off. And for the same results. Now, if I ever get a few extra hours.... Yeah, right.
 
Thanks, Anthony. I've been very curious about WF since it's name popped up. Since, if memory serves, it's roots are in marine applications, I'm hoping this might be a products with excellent longevity. I've got a neice heading off to college, so I need to be thinking more about my "mother-in-law wax" choice.
 
Yeah I am curious about how the WF does also in the longevity area myself.



It looks like the rain may finally be heading out and with that I might be heading out here soon to do a few cars.



If I get the chance to use any of the above mentioned products I'll post it.



Later,

Anthony
 
Anthony Orosco said:
It was the Sealant so it makes one wonder if it is layerable. It may not be a strong enough cleaner to adversely effect the first layer but this of course can only be specualted upon.
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That is kind of suprising because I used the WG Pre-Cleaner and Sealant on a black Lexus LX470 and as normal for Lexus, single stage paint. I got some color transfer with the Pre-Cleaner but absolutely none with the Sealant. None, zero, zip, nada. :nixweiss
 
Scottwax said:
That is kind of suprising because I used the WG Pre-Cleaner and Sealant on a black Lexus LX470 and as normal for Lexus, single stage paint. I got some color transfer with the Pre-Cleaner but absolutely none with the Sealant. None, zero, zip, nada. :nixweiss
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Like I said, it is unclear just how much of the first layer it will effect when layering. It did remove the Sharpie line but it did not remove it completely but rather you can say it removed some of the line, or some of the top color off the line. You could still see a clear line but it was now faded.



I did a Mercedes late this afternoon as it began to finally clear up. I applied the WG, FMJ and the WF on 3 seperate areas of the MB hood and noticed that the FMJ applies with less effort than the WG or the WF.



Removal is still very much equal between these 3 but in ease of application I would vote for the FMJ, then the WG and WF last. I had my assistant feel each panel, without telling her what was on which panel, and tell me which one felt more slick? She chose the WG Sealant and then the FMJ over the WF.



I am suppossed to detail a new black on black BMW 7 tomorrow and if I do I will finish it out with the Menzerna products, including the Glaze and FMJ and post the results. I also have a BMW 6 to do but don't know if I can get to both of them.



Anthony
 
Anthony,



In all fairness, you compared a one-step cleaner wax to 2 sealants. I am not an advocate of sealants unless a wax is applied over them. Most sealants are acrylic or polyurethane based, which suffocates the painted surface and contains no UV protection. In essence, a sealer is an added layer of clearcote which still needs protecting for longevity.



You have to look at what our wax is designed to do. It contains an engulfing agent, which encapsulates the contamination and deposits it to your wipe-off rag. There is no curing time, as the wax is formulated to react immediately upon contact with the surface. It will never get harder than it does in the first 30 seconds...there are no hardening agents in it that need to cure.



It is bonded immediately to the surface with the help of the polymers and silicon (carnauba itself is not attracted to the surface and will not last very long).



Basically, we formulated it for ease of use, long lasting, deep shine ...in one step.
 
Anthony Orosco said:
I am suppossed to detail a new black on black BMW 7 tomorrow and if I do I will finish it out with the Menzerna products, including the Glaze and FMJ and post the results. I also have a BMW 6 to do but don't know if I can get to both of them.
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Oh, yes, please report back on the Glaze. My kit is coming tomorrow or Friday, and while I've been reading good things about FMJ the last few days, I haven't seen too many mentions of the Glaze. I'm curious if it will be yet-another-smeary-mess (my problem with most glazes), or if the application and removal equals the apparent ease-of-use of FMJ.



Looking forward to your review,

Tort
 
Frenzy said:
Most sealants are acrylic or polyurethane based, which suffocates the painted surface and contains no UV protection.
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Paint. Doesn't. Breathe.



And I can think of at least two sealants that do contain UV protection.



Tort
 
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