Colorsand gone wrong! Fixing the Triumph TR6.

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imported_Picus

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Hey everyone. Been piling up c&b's lately but this one deserves it's own, not only because it's a cool car, but the condition it was in when I arrived was :eek:



Story is that the current owner bought it recently, it's in wonderful mechanical shape, body is in great shape and the paint is only 6 years old. Unfortunately the previous owner, or a bad detailer decided to color-sand the car to reduce some of the already minimal orange peel. Obviously they used a rather low grit paper/block and didn't quite know how to remove all the marring - they didn't remove much OP either, incidentally.



So the condition was bad. Very large swaths or what appeared to be maybe 1000 grit sanding marks all over the car. The hood was accosted by a rotary at some point; there were halograms almost down through the clear.



I checked the paint with my PTG and it was reading all over the map from 18 to 30 microns; I decided to use the PC only because I was pretty sure the clear was thinned quite a bit on the horizontal panels. I knew we would have to live with some deeper marring, but better to extend the paints life I think. Paint was very soft, I had a hard time finishing down clean on it. This detail showed me how reliant I've been on the Makita lately. The PC did a great job, but soooo slow.



I had to leave the car inside because it rained all day. I know, total bummer. :/



Process:



Hi-Temp EC/yellow via PC

Hi Temp HC/orange via PC

106ff/grey via PC

Metal got P21S polishing soap via white/PC (works great, BTW), cleaned the chrome up very nicely!

Lots of trim restore!

Zymol Destiny (I got a sample of this, been wanting to try it for awhile, so hey why not)



Sanding gone wrong...



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:eek: close up!

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The most OP on the car was on the rear deck. I removed the rack to find this:



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I actually had to sand this part with 3000 grit super lightly (it read 25 microns, so I was ok) to get most of it out. Uhg.



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Hood wasn't much better...



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More coming.
 
Love the car....super sweet! I love the red and the chrome....man they don't make them like that any more.



Great work on the polishing and sanding. I had to do a quick wetsand and polish on a fresh repaint today. Porsche called me to do this on a hard top for a Carrera and it's so much easier to do this on fresh paint so I can really appreciate the work that you put into this one :2thumbs:



Anthony
 
awesome picus. i think the people that answer the phone for hi temp should check this thread out. that way they can tell people that you can use ec and hc via pc. thats unreal. how long were you polishing?
 
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Just unreal work! The paint looks crystal clear under the lights and the full car after snots...just wow! Unreal depth and wetness! :)
 
VaSuperShine said:
awesome picus. i think the people that answer the phone for hi temp should check this thread out. that way they can tell people that you can use ec and hc via pc. thats unreal. how long were you polishing?
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EC definitely works via PC. It gums the pads up after 3-4 panels, but I just switch pads. HC is awesome by PC, in fact if I was working by PC only it'd probably be my "go-to" aggressive polish.



This one took ~9 hours. By the time I was done I was thankful it was a tiny car with no roof! :)



Thanks guys.
 
Picus- Great job, and that's interesting about the EC/PC (I'm assuming you used a 6.5" pad, which I was leery of trying).
 
Perfection, even with a PC. ;) Great job!!



Can't wait to give the HT-HC leveler a go pretty soon, with my PC.





Regards,



Mike
 
Accumulator said:
Picus- Great job, and that's interesting about the EC/PC (I'm assuming you used a 6.5" pad, which I was leery of trying).
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Both 6.5" and 4" when needed. It works with both. Obviously it's not quite as aggressive as with the rotary, but it still finished down very well considering the bite it as and it tends to cake a bit less than with the rotary. It will still cake pads though.



Thanks. :)
 
Picus said:
EC definitely works via PC. It gums the pads up after 3-4 panels, but I just switch pads. HC is awesome by PC, in fact if I was working by PC only it'd probably be my "go-to" aggressive polish.



This one took ~9 hours. By the time I was done I was thankful it was a tiny car with no roof! :)



Thanks guys.
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Can you please explain the working in process of HTEC/HC with the PC? I would be very interested in this. I have a job that needs it. :)



Thank You!



-Ryan M
 
martinager said:
Can you please explain the working in process of HTEC/HC with the PC? I would be very interested in this. I have a job that needs it. :)



Thank You!



-Ryan M
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Heya, sorry for the late reply. I used HTEC via PC the same way I use HTHC - put a few dabs on the pad, spread it around a small-ish area @ low speed, immediately move to speed 6, use moderate pressure and move *very* slowly across the paint. That's pretty much how I use the PC to do everything. It's ready to come off when it turns clear; as mentioned it can be kind of gummy and it will start to get hard to remove as the pad gums up. I used 3 yellow pads for this detail (kept swapping them out as they got saturated).



The cut was very good, akin to PG/SS3, but the finish was not nearly as hazey as those, it was more akin to the micromarring IP leaves. Unfortunately since the paint was rather soft I needed a middle step (in this case HTHC/orange), had the paint been harder I could have gone to HTHC/white or 106FF/white and finished up clean. 106ff/grey just didn't have the guts to clean up HTEC's marring, and it was the only thing that would finish clean on the soft paint, thus the middle step. :(



This detail really reminded me how much I like working with a rotary. The PC really is a gret tool, but it's shortcomings are very obvious when working on soft paint. It does not finish down nearly as well as a rotary can and requires much longer working time and more steps. Oh well, all in the name of paint thickness! :)



Thanks everyone. The owner was thrilled. :)
 
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