Collinite?

Heatgain said:
I have about 6 bottles, having picked some up at HF at a cheap price. I've only used some out of one bottle, which started off very thick, hard to shake, but for some reason now it only takes a few shakes to return it to a liquid consistency. All the other unused bottles remain very thick, will need a few minutes of shaking to make a bit thinner.

I'm not sure why that happened.
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I just picked up two bottles at HB (on clearance, cheap) and they both did the same thing. They are fine after shaking. I think they have a tendency to separate. I have not used it yet but am anxious to do so. I chose it on an almost unanimous recommendation from Autopians.

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Joel_MD said:
Somebody in an earlier post said something about it being thin and watery, to which I disagree. 845 has a weird consistency; almost a "chunky" liquid, but I would not say watery.
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If it's "chunky", try shaking it more. Mine is notorious for needing a heck of a lot of shaking (more than I would think and/or more than most othe products). After thorough shaking, mine turns from thick and chunky to milk-like liquid. When thin like this, it spreads far and wide like melted butter which helps to leave a very thin layer.
 
oeklm said:
hmmm interesting... is 476 really that much more difficult for application/removal than 845?
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Follow the directions on the can and don't let it sit too long...no more than a couple of minutes. The newest versions of 476S/885 appear to be easier to work with compared to the old formulation.



845 is their easiest product to deal with. The 476S/885 are said to offer superior longevity (per mfr.) and I think they look a bit nicer than the 845. Either way, you can't go wrong.
 
I just got a bottle of SFX3 and wanted to try it on my daily driver. I did two coats of #885 around Thanksgiving. The car looked great, the Collinite is really nice on this dk red. The metal flake in the pearl paint is nicely accentuated by the Collinite. I select this product mainly for its legendary durability, not necessarily the appearance of the finished product. Much to my surprise, this fresh tin of #885 looked great on the paint and I had no issues removing it unlike previous experience when it was left too long.



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On Saturday, I clayed the two driver's side doors, polished with SFX3 (nice on softer paints) and finished up with two layers of #885. I'm trying to leave the rest of the panels alone so I can judge how well the #885 (aka 476S) holds up through our long winter season. So far, it's doing better than I would have guessed. I thought I was getting a lot of bonding to the lower side panels, but found if I washed the car twice that the surfaces were really very clean with almost nothing adhering. When I clayed, only a small amount of junk ended up on the clay bar. The horizontal surfaces still bead quite well. What really surprised me was my "test" of panel slickness. I walked from one end of the car to the other dragging an MF towel along. Of course you expect maximize slickness on freshly done panels, but I was surprised to see that the adjacent (untouched) panels were nearly as slick. To me, this is a reasonable indicator of whether the LSP is still on the job after a few months. As I was saying to Accumulator, I'm likely to stick with the #885 year round and may end up using it on one of the other cars where I'd typical use Klasse or Jeff's WS.
 
I tried collinite after hearing the good reviews on it. I picked up four tins of the 476s at Harbor freight for $7/apiece.



I did not listen to everyone who mentioned put it on thin, did the whole car and I waited too long to let it dry, it was a bear to get off. Next time I used it I went thinner and only waited till I did a couple of panels before I went to remove it and it was much easier.



I put on two coats of 476 in mid october and after multiple rain storms, several snow storms and several onr washes, it is still doing very well and beading nicely.



I have sense washed and applied two coats of fuzion on top of the 476 just because



I almost picked up the few bottles of 845 they had on clearance but passed, wish I would have though.



Exceptional durability from the 476, which is what I am more concerned about.
 
tom p. - Ah, the SFX3/885 really *did* work well! I find that the 885/476S seems unusually sensitive to prep/final polishing/penultimate products; I *thought* it was muting the flake on the DenaliXL but after repolishing with different stuff and redoing the 476S ...*pop*... the flake was nice and impressive after all.



User Name said:
..Durability is about the same for both [476S and 845] but my experience is that the claims of six month durability are exaggerated in a big way. Not sure how they'll do in SoCal, but in the Northeast during the winter months, I can't get more than about 8 weeks for either (maybe a bit more but that would be pushing it). .
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I wonder if your shampoo has a detrimental effect on the durability :think: I'm still useing Griot's Car Wash, which seems very gentle LSP-wise.



I'd be *very* disappointed if my 476S only lasted 8 weeks, and I use it on one of the dog-haulers that's in near daily use all winter (not a pampered vehicle by any means). Heh heh, if it only lasted that long for me I'd just use #16 instead :D



I get odd durability variances with the 845 :confused: Whether it's the pre or post-VOC version, it never lasts as long as 476S for me (I have both on different/adjacent surfaces of the Denali so it's easy to compare) and on *some* surfaces (e.g., the rear bumper cover of my wife's A8) it doesn't even last as long as Meg's #16! I have no explanation for that at all :nixweiss
 
i waited about 15 minutes. I believe someone had mentioned somewhere that they contacted collinite and they said you should wait 12-24 hours between coats. I did not have the time so i did what I had to do
 
I didn't realize they wanted that much time between coats. I've never waited more than an hour or two. Perhaps I'll wait overnight next time I apply it.
 
Accumulator said:
I'd be *very* disappointed if my 476S only lasted 8 weeks, and I use it on one of the dog-haulers that's in near daily use all winter (not a pampered vehicle by any means). Heh heh, if it only lasted that long for me I'd just use #16 instead :D



I get odd durability variances with the 845 :confused: Whether it's the pre or post-VOC version, it never lasts as long as 476S for me (I have both on different/adjacent surfaces of the Denali so it's easy to compare) and on *some* surfaces (e.g., the rear bumper cover of my wife's A8) it doesn't even last as long as Meg's #16! I have no explanation for that at all :nixweiss
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I decided to use 476s as my winter LSP on the garage parked, seldom in the conditions IS350 and also on the outdoor parked, daily driven, subject to lots of abuse CR-V. The absolute max I got on the CR-V is 10 weeks, but I'm probably stretching it.



The IS350 was fine at 12 weeks, but I chose to put on another coat, just because. I find 845 and 476s have about the same durability as NXT 2.0.
 
tom p. said:
I didn't realize they wanted that much time between coats. I've never waited more than an hour or two. Perhaps I'll wait overnight next time I apply it.
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I doubt 12-24 hours is an official Collinite recommendation. When I contacted Collinite via email and posed this question, with reference to 845, they told me to wait 30 minutes between coats. I have read others who said they were told, with reference to 476s, to wait for an hour between coats. 12 hours may still be optimal, but I don't think it has formal sanction from Collinite. But I'm happy to be proven incorrect. :)
 
I got 3 months from 845 in the summer. During the winter it lasted longer on the top of the vehicle but where it was subjected to salt spray the beading fell off much faster.
 
just did the navigator with 845 and it is one of the easiest waxes that i have ever worked with...as someone mentioned, its goof proof. gives a good shine, too!
 
biolink said:
What is 845 made of? nuba? synthetic?
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I read somewhere that it's a natural/synthetic blend, containing "resins".



User Name- Well, I guess there are just *so* many variables that it's hard to say why stuff works differently for different people. That still sounds prett good though.



tom p. & akimel- IIRC (and I don't recall it all that well at all) they told me something about an hour or two :nixweiss.



Heh heh, I always question those "24 hour" recommendations...as if detailing products and the length of a day are all that in-synch :hmph:



This reminds me that I oughta start a "Collinite Pseudo-holograms" thread some time...
 
Accumulator said:
User Name- Well, I guess there are just *so* many variables that it's hard to say why stuff works differently for different people. That still sounds prett good though.
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No doubt about it and don't get it wrong, I love 845 and 476s is pretty darn good as well. In my experience though, most LSPs I've used, do not last as long as manufacturers claim, or the hype they get on the internet.



For example, I tried Victoria Concours Red over the summer and I found it to be abysmal (not just in durability either). However, I've read from some that it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. For me, Collinite 845 is one of the best durability/looks/ease of use LSPs around.
 
User Name said:
.. most LSPs I've used, do not last as long as manufacturers claim, or the hype they get on the internet..
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Yeah, I agree completely. You just never know until you get something and try it for *yourself*.
 
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