Collinite First Take

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My review of Collinite 476S



9 oz metal can, paid $15.10



One vehicle I put it on had Klasse Sealer Glaze on and was a Light Bronzemist Metallic. One vehicle had Klasse Sealer Glaze with a coat of P21S and it is a Dark Teal Green Metallic. The last car was just washed, clayed, and polished with Menzerna Final Polish 2, and is black.



Applying on the first two the ambient temperature was below 70 degrees. It seemed like it took more effort to apply it on these because of the relatively cool temperature and because they already had a very slick final product already applied. The black car seemed to take the wax easier because it had just been polished and the ambient temperature was over 75 degrees. In both cases the wax was removed effortlessly. I did roughly two 2x2 panels going back to the first panel and removing. Basically letting it start to haze over before removing.



I think the finished result was very glassy looking on the two lighter cars. Very impressive. The black car is another story. The look was also a deep glassy and shiny look and looked very good in the shade. When I got it out under the sun I could see some spots that looked like swirl marks. A little spritzing with a QD’r seemed to clear it up. It reminded me of my faded memory of the old Simonize wax finish. I tried capturing the look with a camera, but it just didn’t show it. I wished I’d had time to apply a different wax to different panels so I’d have some better comparison. I don’t know that the swirls weren’t there after polishing, but I don’t think so. I used a PC to apply the FP2. The wax was applied by hand.



As a winter preservative I think it’s going to be just fine. For the summer season I think I’d rather use P21S or just the SG. I’ll reserve my final evaluation after seeing how it holds up over time.
 
That is what I said all along in the summer time and warmer months SOUVERN CMW STUFF NXT ADAMS TS SIGNATURE but comes the winter months bring on the COLLINITE yes you lose part of the shine but you are protected big time.
 
For years I have been topping #915 MDE with a little p21s during the winter months. Lock in your favorite paint cleaner/ glaze / or synthetic with the Collinite then top off from time to time with a little p21s to get that " Pop ". I contacted p21s years back and asked them what was the lowest temp you can could apply their carnauba and they said 42 degrees [ this is much lower than most other products ] so on nice sunny winter days it works out very nice.



Just my 2 cents.



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That's interesting. I wonder what the lowest ambient temperature for good application for those "other" products would be? I think in all the discussions taking place here (detailing in general), ambient temperature has just been taken for granted. I have only a roof (open carport) to work under so temperature is a critical element for me.
 
People need to understand that this wax is not to be compared to P21s, Souveran or any of the other boutique waxes.



It's not supposed to be one!



It's an "industrial" type product meant more for durability and protection.



So comparing it to other waxes is sort of like copmaring appleas and oranges.



I use both the IW and 476 for the winter. If I get a warmer day in the winter, I top with P21s for a beauty treatment.



Ofcourse in the warmer weather, you go for the best look possible because you have zero problem waxing your car every 3rd week or so. :D



I've said it a bunch of times in other posts. I love Collinite. Use on your wheels too :up
 
Got a dumb question...



If Collinite is so strong and durable, after winter is over, will I have trouble stripping it off and putting on my fav wax/sealant? I assume a mild polish/glaze like SSR1/VM will take it off?
 
SteveOst said:
When I got it out under the sun I could see some spots that looked like swirl marks. A little spritzing with a QD’r seemed to clear it up.



I used #16 on my white car and had that same problem. Kinda like the oils were still there and you needed to buff them out, or use some QD to aid in the buffing.
 
vapore0n said:
I used #16 on my white car and had that same problem. Kinda like the oils were still there and you needed to buff them out, or use some QD to aid in the buffing.

That sounds about like it. I'm surprised you noticed it on a white car. Maybe it's just the light metallics that hide that problem. I know ScottWax uses the #16 a lot. I wonder how he deals with it, or maybe it's not an issue for him.
 
For the wax-hazing stuff, maybe work at getting it on thinner and more uniformly. I kinda "work it in" when I use products like 476S and #16; even though you can't really *work it into the paint*, I think (or hope :o ) you know what I mean. I apply it by Cyclo most of the time and I spread the wax out, covering as large an area as I can with the least amount of wax.
 
I'm sure the way it showed up that uniformity probably is the issue. Part of the problem is that I was working in the shade and couldn't see it until I took it out into the sun. I'm going to need to put up some lights for this, but a problem I have is that I had to put up bird netting to keep the birds from purching above the cars and...., well, you know:D So that will have to be taken down before the lights can be put up. Not something I'm particularly interested in doing before summer now. But I'm not giving up on Collinite. I ordered the IW today.
 
Hmm weird. PreSolv should work but I do have PreWash to aid in removal of polymers. Should work out!
 
Steveost- OK, you really *do* have a real situation to deal with, huh? Good luck getting it all figured out, sounds like a challenge.



maecrispy- Don't worry, even the Collinite will be pretty weak by the time spring rolls around. And anyhow, I've removed it with mild polishes/paint cleaners. While it does hold up great against detergents and daily abuse, mechanical processes cut right through it.
 
SteveOst said:
That sounds about like it. I'm surprised you noticed it on a white car. Maybe it's just the light metallics that hide that problem. I know ScottWax uses the #16 a lot. I wonder how he deals with it, or maybe it's not an issue for him.



I've had that happen a couple of times with Souveran and Natty's, most likely because I didn't completely buff the excess off where I may have laid it on too thick. Either washing or QD will remove the hazing/swirls right away. I haven't had that problem with #16 and I do use it on my own black car.
 
I havent seen the hazing with #16 or IW, or 476. But I havent done any balck cars recently either. It may just be a freak set of circumstances, but when I collinited the Lightning (Red) this summer before a road trip it actually had a wetter, deeper look thank 1 month old NXT (which was still beading very nicely).
 
Excellent... thx Acumulator. I suppose I should have know that but good to get confirmation anyway.



Might be interesting to do a half and half test (Zaino one side and Collinite on the other) and see which one holds up best to MI winter abuse. I expect it won't even be close but who knows....
 
maecrispy said:
Excellent... thx Acumulator. I suppose I should have know that but good to get confirmation anyway.



Might be interesting to do a half and half test (Zaino one side and Collinite on the other) and see which one holds up best to MI winter abuse. I expect it won't even be close but who knows....



Which one do you think will be the winner? ;)



I suppose it will be same conditions... one layer vs one layer, or same number of layers for both.....
 
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