Collinite 845 vs. 476s

will 845 over aio make black noticibly more shiny? how does 845 compare to other carnauba waxes? (does it sacrafice a lot of shine for its durability?)
 
Oh no! If you thought that the Collinites' look is somewhat compromised, you are wrong.



Especially the 845 is a very interesting product. It is a beauty wax, period. No muted shine, or dull look just for the sake of durability. It is very clear, so it shows the underlying paint or layer(s) of other products very truly. Compatible with every product in my arsenal; works excellent with other carnaubas and synthetics as well. It won't produce the 'silver ghost' effect (a grayish, silvery hue, which can be seen from certain angles) that some products can. If you want to achieve a bright look, apply a good sealant first, and then top it with the 845. If you love a glowing black, layer the 845 onto a softer-looking carnauba. It will fortify less durable beauty products, and conserves their appearance. In your case, the bright AIO will be still as bright and shiny, but the Collinite will make the look more rounded. Ah, you'll love its beading characteristics!
 
Spilchy said:
Anyone use the saphire cleaner wax?
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I've used it only once. (Mid-winter boost) Very quick application (was only 3 or 4º above freezing) and was done in a parking lot while the owner was working, so, not anywhere near optimal conditions for a thorough review, but here are my first impressions:

Name (Super Sapphire Paste) does not refer to the looks of the wax itself. The paste looks like mud! Also, the opening isn't as big as some other cans, but for those of you who are familiar with Collinite cans, this is the typical can/opening.

Spreads fairly easily in cooler temps. Where applied thinly, it removes easily. Thicker areas needed a bit more effort. Dries white in textured plastics, but seemed to remove easily. So far I haven't noticed any white to have re-appeared.

Nice glossy and reflective look. Seems to darken paint a bit.

Typical Collinite tiny water beads.

Made palm of my hand turn white in the cracks of the skin. (Dried my skin out, not wax residue.)

Says it cleans, waxes and glazes in one step. It seemed to reduce the noticeability of some snowbrush induced marring, but I'm thinking this would be from the glazing rather than polishing action.



I'm looking forward to trying it more thoroughly when the weather is warmer/sunnier.
 
Thanks BigLeer! I'm thinking the liquid Saphire would be good for the lower panels. I am always using a bug & tar remover then going to a wax to protect the area. This seems like it would be able to clean and wax in the same step.



I'm curious about its cleaning abilities to remove tar and other contaminates that get on those lower areas.
 
Spilchy said:
Thanks BigLeer! I'm thinking the liquid Saphire would be good for the lower panels. I am always using a bug & tar remover then going to a wax to protect the area. This seems like it would be able to clean and wax in the same step.



I'm curious about its cleaning abilities to remove tar and other contaminates that get on those lower areas.
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Far be it from me to take any sales away from the nice guys at Collinite, but THIS sounds exactly like what you're looking for. Seems to be nonabrasive too. I'd just use this and then slap a quick coat of your favorite Collinite over top of it.
 
Thanks Accumulator! That's what I'm looking for. I'm always getting grease and grit on the side of the car, right behind the tires. It's a pain to use my bug and tar remover (20 year old bottle and counting!) and then to wax.



I'm dreading when the bug and tar remover runs out, with the new VOC rules, I won't be able to get an equal replacement. It's like magic.



For giggles, maybe I'll get a small bott of the TOL stuff and a bottle of the Saphire and compare. I think they'll find a home in my arsenal of problem solvers.
 
Accumulator, Express Wax interests me too. Presently, I use the TW Bug & Tar Remover which is ok and leaves some protection...but hardly an impressive product on bugs.



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I use to remove the wall of bugs that cover my car on my 5-day country trips.



Have you tried it, and how does it compair?
 
Alfisti- Sorry, but no, I haven't tried *any* bug & tar remover for so long that I honestly can't remember when (back when the TW stuff came in a white metal can with white plastic cap). I almost always just use clay to remove it so as to not disturb my LSP (at least not any more than necessary) and if that won't do it I just use a solvent like 3M Adhesive Remover or Wurth CleanSolv. I use the Express on vehicles I have carnauba on, and used it all the time when I still had the Volvo.



Not sure how well the Express Wax (my bottles are labeled "Snap Seal" but they're kinda old) will work on really *nasty* bugs, but IMO it's worth a try. It seems mild enough that you can sorta scrub (oooh, I *hate* to use that word!) with a good, *soft* MF without fear of doing damage. I also dunno how well it'll really protect all by itself, but it only takes a moment to put something like Collinite/#16 over top of it.



Casebrius- Yeah, there's a synthetic componenet to 845. Some sort of "resin".
 
Tasty said:
This may have been addressed already in the thread, but is there anywhere to buy 845 over the counter?
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I think people were saying at Advanced Auto Parts or try a local marine/boat shop.
 
Accumulator said:
Alfisti- Sorry, but no, I haven't tried *any* bug & tar remover for so long that I honestly can't remember when (back when the TW stuff came in a white metal can with white plastic cap).
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That's what I *still* have and was mentioning in my prior post. I love it on those stubborn contaminants. Much better than the 3M stuff.



They still make it in that exact bottle but it's VOC compliant so I really don't know if that affected it's abilities..
 
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