Collinite 845/925 Same Product?

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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by waxman [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Michigan is the second fattest state in the nation. We have a Mcdonalds, Burger King, Wendys, Coney Island restaurants, etc. every square mile!!!!You should see the size of the seagulls and black crowes around here. The size of owls!!!The rats are the size of opposums!! If you have starving animals just send them to the Metro Detroit area!!! [/b]</blockquote>
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...full of black smoke expelling diesel engines semis, chemical plants(dupont), auto manufacturers, road oil...</blockquote>haha, waxman! i read that and thought for sure you were talking about where i live (north jersey metro)! that's a perfect description of some parts of NJ, except i bet we have more plump, landfill-fed, toxic waste spewing seagulls than even you have. and ours are meaner!!
 
When developing a new sealant formula, I still do what I did for one of the real world tests that I did when living in SoCal.



Ship panels overnight to a buddy, he takes them down to the Santa Anna dump and puts them on the roof of a building.



They are left there for one month and then ships them back.



We look at the panel and what penetration the sea gull droppings may have made through the new formualtion of sealant.



Some do pretty good, some not so good, and some are just big failures.



We also put panels,(all panels are no older than one week since base/clear applications, so they are fresh) around Dearborn, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Fl. Newark/Elizabeth, NJ port area, etc.



Have never had a formula not fail at at least one location.



The panels are black, some dark metallic green(the worse to etch) , white, red non-clear and blue, both metallic and non metallic.



These polymer sealant coatings are "sacrifical", they contain amino functional resins, polyaminosilioxanes, fluortelamer resins, etc, and aid in warding off the effects of the acids/alkaline compounds.



But none are bullet proof, none will withstand all compounds, the heat and humidty factors at each location play a part, etc.



So, if you are looking for something that is going to be bullet proof for your paint, good luck and if it works for a million or so vehicles, all colors, clear and nonclears, you got your retirement covered.



Ketch

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After leaving the spot alone for a few days, the etches seem to have largely disappeared. It is still there, but the area seems a lot smaller than it was.



I'll probably give it another treatment of paint cleaner and let time pass again. Hopefully this will largely clear up. I will post some pics of the area after I give my car another bath on Thursday.



-Al
 
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The lighting isn't great, so you can't really see that the stain is still there; however, the problem area isn't nearly as bad it was. It's only a faint outline of the original stain. Parts of the stain are completely gone now.

I used a combination of clay, Zymol paint cleanser, Imperial Hand Glaze, and today I finished up with a coat of Z1 and Z5. Very happy with the results.

-Al
 
waxman, you must have too many fastfood places cause last time I drove throught Detroit everyone decided to discard their fast food trash all next to the highway. too bad the pigeons don't eath the garbage, then they'd get fat and be to heavy to fly :)
 
Glad to hear the good news.



Now, to prevent a repetition, there really is only one reliable regime if we want to make sure our paint does not get damaged:



1. Keep several coats of protectant on the car.

2. When parking, do a 20 second scan of the paint for any bird bombs, sap, tar, etc. If there is any, remove immediately.

3. Put a car cover on the car, except if you are running into a store, etc. If you are just running in, repeat #2 when you get back or at least before you again put the cover on the car. If the car is going to be parked for any lenght of time . . more than a hour or two, on goes the cover. (following this approach, your time between car washes really lenghtens, and the car looks great for a long time. Less washing means less chance of swirls or other washing related possible damage.)



The rule is "get it off quick" and "keep most of it off in the first place, by religious use of a cover."



Unfortunately, as you know and as Ron K points out, there is still no protectant that will prevent harm in all cases. Until such a protectant comes along, its eyeballing, quick cleaning, and car covers.
 
I guess I am not the detailing person I thought I was. :( That is just too much work to come out and QD my car everytime I drive somewhere. That is too much obsessive compulsiveness for me. :)





About the pigeons being too fat too fly. They are. If they are all in a parking lot and you happen to drive near them, they don't fly to get out of the way they only walk about six inches. Seriously. The only time they fly is to go about 50 feet to the next fast food place.
 
Just increase your dosage of Prozac to 150mg and you should have no problem QD'ind up to 4 times per day! :D



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My husband had the same problem on his new merlot maxima. I was so p**sed! I tried everything - paint cleaners, QD's, a polish, clay bar, etc. Finally, I decided to let my salesman know what happened. We've had many cars and crap has sat for days on them and never did this. It was almost as if it went deep into the paint. Anyway my husband took it in yesterday and the salesman used some Turtle Wax Mirror Glaze and it came right off. Don't ask me - maybe it was magic. But you may want to try...



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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by waxman [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Michigan is the second fattest state in the nation. We have a Mcdonalds, Burger King, Wendys, Coney Island restaurants, etc. every square mile!!!!You should see the size of the seagulls and black crowes around here. The size of owls!!!The rats are the size of opposums!! If you have starving animals just send them to the Metro Detroit area!!! [/b]</blockquote>
Let's not forget the ever-popular White Castle hamburger. :D
 
no way, Sonic! all the way.



I live strawberry limades (extra strawberries) the are the bomb, to bad they don't have them in Ohio :(
 
I just received my [free] Collinite 925 Boat Wax from PAC. (Thanks Jack and the PAC Crew!!!:notworthy:)

I also have an old bottle of 845 from a few years ago and they look like the same product.

True? Any reason I can't use 925 on car paint?
 
Collinite cheat sheet:

476S=885=900=S238

840=920

73SS=146MW

870=ss126

845=925

915=unique

855=unique

To answer your question, yes they're the same product in different packaging.
 
Collinite told me 845 has the same ingredients as 915 with the exception of 915 having more carnuaba.
 
wfedwar said:
845 is a liquid and 915 is a paste. Do you mean 915 is like 476s with more carnauba?
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I'm aware one is a paste and the other is liquid. :) I called collinite and told them that I have 915, but I heard that 845 looks better on silver(color of my car), so I was thinking about buying it. The guy told me it would be a waste to buy 845 because 915 has the same ingredients, only with 915 having more carnauba. I guess they just decided to make each different consistencies...
 
Luster said:
I just received my [free] Collinite 925 Boat Wax from PAC. (Thanks Jack and the PAC Crew!!!:notworthy:)

I also have an old bottle of 845 from a few years ago and they look like the same product.

True? Any reason I can't use 925 on car paint?
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Congrats Bill!:clap:

I've been using 845 on a few cars lately and loving it... 925 sounds like it might be even better with more carnuba in it: win/win situation.
 
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