Cobalt SS vs. WRX?? Which one to buy

TH0001 said:
I drove the Mazda 3 Speed and suprisingly liked it quite a bit.
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It's only surprising if you are basing your judgments on stats in magazines. HP and Torque ratings, and 0-60 times are a *very* small piece of the fun to drive factor. If printed numbers where all that mattered the "pocket rocket" segment wouldn't even exist. Give a smaller car a good steering rack, make it so it handles well without being harsh, and gear it correctly and you don't need a ton of power to have fun. That's the basic formula in my mind and the MS3 does it the best. Ever wonder why the MK1 GTi is still the peoples choice even though it is the slowest ever made?

The reason I suggested you might like the MS3 earlier in this thread is if you look at what they did to turn a regular 3 into a MS3 versus the other two cars you see a much clearer picture of why it might be more fun to drive than the other two. Also, IMO (and opinion is all it is right?) I think the interior perceived quality is nicer in the 3. And this is coming from somebody that just talked his lady into a Subaru. So I'm not biased. I just think the MS3 matches what you are looking for better.
 
gtpaul said:
Nothing wrong with a Cobalt



Its:



Cheap to maintain

Cheap to insure

Good warranty

Easy to clean

Good A to B car



I downgraded from a 2007 VW GTI to an 08 Cobalt and I don't regret it one bit.
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If I were looking to get into a new FWD 4cyl, I wouldn't think twice about picking up the SS. It's the best new car you can get for low $20K.
 
Accumulator said:
IIRC, a ways back on this thread TH0001 said he'd rather not buy used this time ("used pocket-rocket" = :soscared: ).



I can argue it both ways; half of my current vehicles were bought new, the other half used. But IMO new is more likely to provide complete peace of mind and it's nice to *not* have to do a major detail on something before putting it into service.
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Well here's my viewpoint on the used vs new scenario...



I like value. I don't mind spending money when I have to in order to get something of real value to me, rather than waste a small amount of money on junk.



When I look at a new car, I don't see value. I see a bad investment. The minute you drive it off the lot, it's lost thousands of dollars in value. That doesn't appeal to me. When I compare the cars I can afford new and the cars I can afford used, that further sours my mind towards new cars.



Ask me whether I'd have a used e46 330ci, or a brand spanking new Chevrolet Cobalt SS? Go on! :lol
 
Holden_C04- And that, as they say, is what makes it a horse race; different people approach this stuff differently :D



Heh heh, *I* approach it from both sides almost evenly. But I will say that it's *VERY* hard for me to find used vehicles that're nice enough for me to live with. I look at a *lot* of "perfect" (scare-quotes intentional) cars before I find one that's good enough, and sometimes I just *never* do. Not that many showroom-quality used cars out there IME.



And anyhow...this is all about which way TH0001 wants to jump. If *he* would rather buy a new Cobalt SS than a used e46 M3 I'm the last guy who's gonna :nono about it.
 
I prefer the Cobalt SS over the Impreza WRX and the Lancer Evolution.



1.) I really like the styling of the Cobalt, it's understated and sporty at the same time. The styling of the other two cars is much too "boy racer" for my tastes. I think both of the cars look pretty terrible. The Impreza receives almost constant styling updates as well and the reason is simply: the car is ugly; Subaru keeps trying to "fix" it but honestly it never gets any better. The styling of the Lancer makes the car look like it came out of a time warp leading from 1985. It works in Japan but honestly I don't see the appeal of it at all.



2.) In a word, performance. For the money the Cobalt is the winner. What does that mean for a daily driver? Well, probably not so much but the facts are that for the $$$ the Cobalt is the better performing car in it's class. One reason I attribute for this is weight. I'm not sure why the Lancer and the Impreza weigh so much but they seem very heavy for compact cars. The Lancer is 3,517 lbs according to Edmunds and the Impreza is almost as much. That's getting close to my LS8's weight (3,772 lbs) which is a mid-sized, V8 powered sedan.



3.) Not only is the Cobalt less $$$ up front it will be cheaper to run as well. It carries an EPA highway rating of 30 MPG. The Lancer is only rated at 22 mpg and the Impreza is rated at 25 mpg.



I could keep going but honestly the facts are out there for people to discover. I much prefer the Cobalt and I think if a person puts aside any prejudices they may have over brand name or where the car is built they will discover the Cobalt is an excellent car and better than it's counterparts.
 
I been seeing so many of the Cobalt SS around , that i now think this car might be a great buy. There's one yellow one park next to me when i pickup my daughter from school almost everyday with a hot looking blonde in it. Go for it Todd...............
 
Florida-LS,



You have made some good points, but there are a few that i am going to disagree with. Both the Evolution and Impreza has it own history, these are rally car that we are talking about. With good knowledge these cars can be track monsters.



I understand your point about the Cobalt, yes it is indeed a good car but i believe it comes down to your personal needs.



For example, does the driver of the car want a 2 door? a 4 door? turbocharge? supercharger? and so on.



- T
 
hmmm I would say that this is like asking someone whether they would prefer the original nintendo verses the nintendo wii... WRX is an animal! AWD and an unreal powerhouse.... Additionally, the car looks and feels amazing.
 
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