Coating or Not?

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ShawnF350

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When I sold my pair of Rupes polishers, I had a BF Crystal Coating kit that I threw in as they were leaving. I only gave the coating first but figured he would need the whole kit for good results.
I had the kit since Feb of 2015 and didn`t really think it would get used within 2 years of having it. (I didn`t want problems using an old coating)

This Weekend i plan on Trying Hydro2 that my SS sent me. ( can`t wait)

Having FK1000 work so well for me lately, is a coating really worth it or something else?
Would BF coating be a good choice again? Or are these spray on ones a better choice?
I still want to try one if It`s something I cant mess up.
Just trying to see if I should order something with the big sale going on.
 
PBL is very easy. I have used it on 5 vehicles without any kind of problems. The last two I used Essence and then PBL over the top. On the Hydro2, you might want to try to remove any previous applied lsp before using. Hydro2 likes bare paint (or metal).
 
Is PBL just sprayed on?
I`m looking for easy.

Optimum gloss coat is an option too since i have the hyper polish to prep with.
 
ShawnF350 said:
Is PBL just sprayed on?
I`m looking for easy.
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Yes it is. I have PBL V2 on my mom`s car right now. I was sent this bottle for review from Nick over at Autogeek. I had to vary the amount of sprays per area that it was applied to. I went a little heavy with it because of this. It still does not take up a lot of product when using it. It`s very easy.

The only thing I have yet to try is to use PBL without using the dedicated surface cleansing polish prior to applying it. Something like Eraser or IPA instead of the surface polish. The reason being is I am trying to avoid an additional polishing step to save more time.

ShawnF350 said:
Optimum gloss coat is an option too since i have the hyper polish to prep with.
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Gloss Coat is just as easy. It self levels and requires very little wiping to remove any excess. If you have hyper polish then you don`t have to remove any polishing oils. This was stated on the Optimum Synergy Podcast that the products are meant to work together.

Both are easy and you can`t go wrong with either.

If I had to choose between these two, Gloss Coat would get my vote. It would be a real close vote.
 
IMHO... Blackfire is THE one you`d want to stay away from, RE being easy. That puppy goes on much stickier/thicker than the rest.

As far as application, go ahead and go with the CarPro method. Get a pair of the foam applicator blocks, then get the 10 pack of the 16x16 (40cmx40cm) suede applicator cloths. You can cut each cloth into SIXTEEN 4" squares! :D The 10 pack is still $19.99 (I think). Where if you get the pre-cut 4" cloths they are $12.99 for TEN. That makes them $1.29 each. That`s ONE DOLLAR AND TWENTY NINE CENTS PER CLOTH. WOW!

Where if you cut the 16" cloths you`ll get 160, for $19.99 which is like 12.5¢ each. Now THAT is easy. :)

The reason I recommend using the suede cloth applicator is you tend to use MUCH less product, and get that product applied much more evenly. Where if you use a round foam applicator you`ll not get it as even. Then there`s the Lake Country wedge applicator, which is capable of a more even application, but the applicator itself is pretty darned thirsty. (All foam applicators are thirsty in that respect.) As the foam gets more loaded, then your application gets more loaded the farther you go. Where if you`re using the suede cloth you`ll get the same application on the last 2 sq feet that you got on the first one. Also... you`ll want to flip, maybe even rotate the cloth after say doing the hood. Use it for the fenders afterwards, maybe the front bumper after that. Then get a new cloth and do the roof, doors, etc. I`ll tend to use from 2~3 depending on how large the vehicle is.

Once you`ve used them on the paint, you can use them on your fingertip for tight areas around the mirrors, around the cowling, trim, etc.

I would suggest also if you`re doing your glass with a coating that you use a separate one for that. But at 12.5¢ each, you can use TEN for less than the cost of one pre-cut cloth. ;)
 
ShawnF350 said:
Having FK1000 work so well for me lately, is a coating really worth it or something else?
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I`d say yes. The coating was the clear winner in my LSP winter faceoff. Not that I don`t love FK1000P but coatings are definitely a step up in protection, IMHO.

ShawnF350 said:
Would BF coating be a good choice again? Or are these spray on ones a better choice?
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I`m too under experienced with coatings to give a personal opinion but when I asked around Kamikaze ISM/Miyabi and CarPro CQuartz were the two most highly recommended coatings by far.

ShawnF350 said:
I still want to try one if It`s something I cant mess up.
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I find WG Uber Coating very easy to use. Finishes slick, looks great and lasts. If I compare to CarPro Dlux, I find WG Uber Coating much more user-friendly. Just this past weekend I applied WG Uber coating to my whole car.
 
cardaddy said:
IMHO... Blackfire is THE one you`d want to stay away from, RE being easy. That puppy goes on much stickier/thicker than the rest.

As far as application, go ahead and go with the CarPro method. Get a pair of the foam applicator blocks, then get the 10 pack of the 16x16 (40cmx40cm) suede applicator cloths. You can cut each cloth into SIXTEEN 4" squares! :D The 10 pack is still $19.99 (I think). Where if you get the pre-cut 4" cloths they are $12.99 for TEN. That makes them $1.29 each. That`s ONE DOLLAR AND TWENTY NINE CENTS PER CLOTH. WOW!

Where if you cut the 16" cloths you`ll get 160, for $19.99 which is like 12.5¢ each. Now THAT is easy. :)

The reason I recommend using the suede cloth applicator is you tend to use MUCH less product, and get that product applied much more evenly. Where if you use a round foam applicator you`ll not get it as even. Then there`s the Lake Country wedge applicator, which is capable of a more even application, but the applicator itself is pretty darned thirsty. (All foam applicators are thirsty in that respect.) As the foam gets more loaded, then your application gets more loaded the farther you go. Where if you`re using the suede cloth you`ll get the same application on the last 2 sq feet that you got on the first one. Also... you`ll want to flip, maybe even rotate the cloth after say doing the hood. Use it for the fenders afterwards, maybe the front bumper after that. Then get a new cloth and do the roof, doors, etc. I`ll tend to use from 2~3 depending on how large the vehicle is.

Once you`ve used them on the paint, you can use them on your fingertip for tight areas around the mirrors, around the cowling, trim, etc.

I would suggest also if you`re doing your glass with a coating that you use a separate one for that. But at 12.5¢ each, you can use TEN for less than the cost of one pre-cut cloth. ;)
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What pair of applicator blocks Do you suggest?
 
cardaddy said:
IMHO... Blackfire is THE one you`d want to stay away from, RE being easy. That puppy goes on much stickier/thicker than the rest.

As far as application, go ahead and go with the CarPro method. Get a pair of the foam applicator blocks, then get the 10 pack of the 16x16 (40cmx40cm) suede applicator cloths. You can cut each cloth into SIXTEEN 4" squares! :D The 10 pack is still $19.99 (I think). Where if you get the pre-cut 4" cloths they are $12.99 for TEN. That makes them $1.29 each. That`s ONE DOLLAR AND TWENTY NINE CENTS PER CLOTH. WOW!

Where if you cut the 16" cloths you`ll get 160, for $19.99 which is like 12.5¢ each. Now THAT is easy. :)

The reason I recommend using the suede cloth applicator is you tend to use MUCH less product, and get that product applied much more evenly. Where if you use a round foam applicator you`ll not get it as even. Then there`s the Lake Country wedge applicator, which is capable of a more even application, but the applicator itself is pretty darned thirsty. (All foam applicators are thirsty in that respect.) As the foam gets more loaded, then your application gets more loaded the farther you go. Where if you`re using the suede cloth you`ll get the same application on the last 2 sq feet that you got on the first one. Also... you`ll want to flip, maybe even rotate the cloth after say doing the hood. Use it for the fenders afterwards, maybe the front bumper after that. Then get a new cloth and do the roof, doors, etc. I`ll tend to use from 2~3 depending on how large the vehicle is.

Once you`ve used them on the paint, you can use them on your fingertip for tight areas around the mirrors, around the cowling, trim, etc.

I would suggest also if you`re doing your glass with a coating that you use a separate one for that. But at 12.5¢ each, you can use TEN for less than the cost of one pre-cut cloth. ;)
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I did exactly this with the Uber Coating and it worked very well.
 
One thing I`m forgetting.
Is temperature and humidity a concern when applying a coating . Is it better to wait for cool weather.
In South Jersey.
 
My experience has been it will take a bit longer for the coating to "flash" with higher humidity and temps.

A lower humidity level is best. YMMV however...
 
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