Cleaner-waxes

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efnfast

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For chemical cleaning of the surface (i.e., no abrassives, want to remove light water spotting, etc.....), are there some popular cleaner-waxes out there? For example, is Meguiar's cleaner wax any good for this purpose (not as a wax, but as a non-abrassive cleaning-up agent)?



Also, taking meguiar's one as an example, what happens if you wax the vehicle, then 3weeks later use the cleaner wax on it - will the chemicals strip the old wax off, or will it be left behidn?
 
Lusso Paint Recondition Creame, Dodo Juice Lime Prime and Lime Prime Lite, Swissvax Cleaner Fluid. Those are chemical cleaners not cleaner-waxes.
 
gofastman said:
Optimum Poli-Seal :buffing:

It is abrasive, but super mild.
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I looooove poli-seal, but as you mentioned, it is abrassive. Even something super mild can add up over time if you use it frequently.



I'd like to use something to clean up pesky water-spots that occur during those timeswhen I just can't get to them quickly enough (and my water is super hard)
 
XMT 360; Looks great, has fillers will do a bit of refining of the surface too. You can top it with a sealant or wax....LOVE IT!



ZAIO; Looks great, has little filling, top it with a another Z product if you want!
 
+1: XMT360



I beleive that Meguiars and Mother's Cleaner waxes are very mildly abrasive and they will strip any previous layers of wax.
 
Poorboy's Polish with Carnuba & Polish with Sealant both work pretty well. Also, I use Meg's ColorX quite often when I need a quick one step, however it may have some type of abrasive in it.
 
Mother's makes a cleaner liquid, it's their "step 1" product. I believe Meguiar's makes a decent cleaner liquid in their Deep Crystal line as well.From what I've read, Turtle Wax ICE Liquid Clay is a chemical paint cleaner, and might be what you're looking for.



I actually like Meguiar's Cleaner Carnauba Paste a lot. For a $3 can of wax, it's surprisingly decent. It appears to have a pretty significant carnauba content,and actually does last a decent amount of time. It's not the sort of product I'd use routinely on my personal vehicles, but it's something I'd recommend to a neighbor or friend who isn't as fanatical about their cars as me. I use it from time to time on my gf's car when it needs *something* substantial(more than a spray wax or wash/wax), but I don't have time for anything thorough. Also, that stuff goes on pretty damn fast and looks pretty damn nice. For $3, it can't be beat IMO.
 
efnfast said:
Also, taking meguiar's one as an example, what happens if you wax the vehicle, then 3weeks later use the cleaner wax on it - will the chemicals strip the old wax off, or will it be left behidn?
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I think that you have to presume that a cleaner wax is going remove any wax or sealer.
 
Not a fan of Megs cleaner wax, but ColorX is awesome. Probably one of the strongest OTC chemical cleaners. Megs #66 is even better if it has some decent abrasives.
 
By all means try Meguiar's Cleaner Wax. It has mild cleaning action and is very safe to use long-term. A lot of people use it regularly on their daily drivers, often topping it with their preferred wax. It's a great value. As Yakky notes, ColorX will give you stronger abrasive action, but it too is safe to use on your car long-term.



I have read a lot of good things about Duragloss 501, which is said to have strong chemical cleaning action and provides durable sealant protection.



For dedicated paint cleaners, try: Megs' Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner, Four Star Pre-Wax Cleanser, P21S Paintwork Cleanser, Sonus Paintwork Cleanser.



I hope whatever product you choose works on your water spots. My car got a bunch of water spots in the early summer. I did not attend to them immediately. By the time I did get to them (we are talking only a week or two), none of my paint cleaners could remove them. They had to be buffed out. I hate water spots.



And yes, all paint cleaners and cleaner waxes will (usually) remove previously applied protectants.
 
Not to be insufferably pedantic about this, but almost all such products are abrasive to some extent. Not enough to worry about though.



And yeah, a decent cleaner wax oughta clean off whatever's on the paint, including old wax. But waterspots can be tough, you just never know how bad until you try.
 
efnfast said:
I looooove poli-seal, but as you mentioned, it is abrassive. Even something super mild can add up over time if you use it frequently.



I'd like to use something to clean up pesky water-spots that occur during those timeswhen I just can't get to them quickly enough (and my water is super hard)
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sure wont :chuckle:
 
gofastman said:
sure wont :chuckle:
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So you're telling me if I use poli-seal, on a white pad on a cyclo, say, every day for 5yrs (okay, this is an extreme, but.....) 1825 uses of it won't add up to clearcoat failure?
 
efnfast said:
So you're telling me if I use poli-seal, on a white pad on a cyclo, say, every day for 5yrs (okay, this is an extreme, but.....) 1825 uses of it won't add up to clearcoat failure?
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With that combo and practical use of the product you could use it for a VERY long time before you were able to measure any clearcoat removal.
 
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