Cleaner Wax vs. Regular Wax

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Egleone6

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I have searched and searched and really no explanation as been made clear. I have both a Mothers Cleaner Wax paste and Meguiars Liquid Wax Carnuba. Is one any better? How can you tell if your car has any Oxidation?



If there is really no big difference? Could you just use a Cleaner wax as your wax?
 
Meguiars Liquid Wax is probably also a cleaner wax. Most of the one-step off-the-counter waxes are cleaner waxes which clean and protect. I dunno which is better, I say both aren't too amazing.



If your car has oxidation, the paint looks uniformly dull and simply doesn't reflect.



Yes you can use a Cleaner wax as your final wax, but the durability won't be good.
 
im pretty sure that is a carnuba wax. i think the first step of the deep crystal is a cleaner.
 
Note that waxes can't really have 100% carnauba, and more carnauba content doesn't always mean better results.



But anyhow, I'd still recommend something better for the last step wax.
 
The one youre using is supposed to be a pure liquid wax unless it specifically states that it also has very light cleaners in it. If my memory serves, it was either on this board or the old that someone mentioned that Mother's cleaner wax has more cleaners than wax and Meguiar's (sp?) has less cleaners and more wax. Hopefully someone from the old board remembers this and can chime in.
 
cleaner waxes to provid some gloss and protection but is more of a cleaner for the paint, light scuffs, paint transfers etc hence Cleaner being the first word, for protection you want a product the contains sealer in the the name ie. Mothers Sealer wax
 
Accumulator said:
That's not a cleaner wax. It's a mediocre "straight" wax that does contain some carnauba. When you finish it up, consider something else, I bet there are products you'd like better.
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Like you said, I am sure there is something better, but for right now, it does a pretty good job. I was just concerned if I used the Cleaner Wax, then the Carnuba, I would be wasting my time and effort, and really not getting any more results.



How often would you recommend waxing? 4 - 5 times a year?
 
Using the cleaner wax before the carnauba may help, but won't make much of a difference. How often you need to wax depends on the wax you use. If you use Meguiars Liquid Wax or Mother's Cleaner Wax, then the wax will last about 3-4 weeks. If you use a better quality sealant/wax (though by no means more expensive.. Collinite and Duragloss are similar in price to the Mother's and Meguiars products), you can get about 5-6 months durability.
 
Egleone6 said:
So by saying, if I were to purchase a Duragloss Duragloss PW (Paste Wax) or Collinite Wax #845, my car will look better and have a more durable shield?
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Dont use Duragloss paste wax . #105 liquid is much better. IMO using a cleaner wax first and a straight wax a week later will work just fine. It all depends on how bad you paint is. If it is in bad shape you will need a seperate cleaner, if not go the cleaner wax followed by a straight wax. 845 Collinite is a very good straight wax.
 
Yea, the paste wax isn't too good. By Duragloss sealant, I was referring to the DG 105 topped with the 951 (Aquawax).



Yes, if you use Duragloss, Collinite, or some of the other durable products out there discussed on this forum, you will get better looks and better durability.



I really haven't cleaner waxes to do much in terms of cleaning the surface. A good claying does more than a cleaner wax. Then, preferably you would polish, but that may not be possible in your case, depending on whether you have a machine polisher.
 
Egleone6 said:
Like you said, I am sure there is something better, but for right now, it does a pretty good job. I was just concerned if I used the Cleaner Wax, then the Carnuba, I would be wasting my time and effort, and really not getting any more results.



How often would you recommend waxing? 4 - 5 times a year?
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Some cleanerwaxes work a lot better than others, but yeah, using a cleanerwax first and then a "straight" wax is a time-tested approach that can work well (within the limitations of the cleanerwax). I know people who keep their vehicles looking great that way and I did that myself back in the day.



The second waxing with the straight wax will (if you use the right one ;) ) provide slightly better looks and much better durability/beading/etc.



I'd reapply the straight wax whenever some characteristic you value drops off. Perhaps the beading will go first, or maybe the slickness (that's usually what I go by).



Start over with the cleanerwax whenever you think you need to, or at least twice a year.



FWIW, one of the products I recommend most often is 1Z brand Metallic Polish with Wax, which is, in many ways, just a *very* good cleanerwax. And some cleanerwaxes like Meguiar's #66 and some of the 3M professional cleanerwaxes are actually pretty aggressive.
 
For the average person that "waxes" their car a few times a year, Meguiars Cleaner wax will give them a better finish than any other "pure" wax if the car is a daily driver. Paint just needs cleaning and polishing to remain at its peak shine. However since you are here, you probably want something better. Just tell us what is most important to you and you will get plenty of answers.
 
Cleaner waxes are good for quick minor spot or blotch cleaning on paint w/o going with a full blown polish, which would take down your lsp. It is a good tool for one step clean and shine, but of course it has its limitations. I like keeping a bottle of my favorite cleaner wax (Mother's) on hand for the dd (of course) to tackle little trouble spots.
 
As far as reapplying. I figure it does not take that long to apply a straight wax. I have an orbital buffer that helps take off the wax fairly nice and easy. I am wanting to get a PC or the UDM. I just can't justify spending that much money. Maybe around Christmas, or when I get a few details under my belt.



I just was wandering why have a cleaner wax and then apply a carnuba wax.



When I get done with my Megs Carnuba, I will talk later, but not going to waste what I got.



Thanks All.
 
imageautodetail said:
cleaner waxes to provid some gloss and protection but is more of a cleaner for the paint, light scuffs, paint transfers etc hence Cleaner being the first word, for protection you want a product the contains sealer in the the name ie. Mothers Sealer wax
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What product are you referring to when you say "Mothers Sealer wax?" Their Sealer & Glaze (Step 2) has virtually no protection in it. It must be followed by a pure wax.



Also, I agree with the "skip the DG paste wax" comments. Not too great.
 
BigLeegr said:
What product are you referring to when you say "Mothers Sealer wax?" Their Sealer & Glaze (Step 2) has virtually no protection in it. It must be followed by a pure wax.



Also, I agree with the "skip the DG paste wax" comments. Not too great.
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Was not reffering to any just giving an example of what a bottle would read. I actually would not suggest any Mothers products, but I believe the orignal poster with the question mentioned that he had megs and mothers
 
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