"Clay baring was a waste of my time"

That's why I pretty much stick to team-integra.net. They are much more friendly. I've spent a lot of years on that board trying to make the detailing forum as 'Autopian' as possible. I can't stand it when one product gets the spotlight and no other options are considered. HAN is a lost cause. The few that care about real car care can just come over to Autopia and learn it right. Its just too frustrating trying to convince them that they can do better than the products their grandfather used.
 
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