Chemical Guys Question

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Sorry to bring this up and ask you guys this but has anybody tried any of their compounds. Here is the website that shows the ones I'm talking about http://chemicalguys.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=PCWCCP&Category_Code=COM The only reason I ask this is because I heard their similar to poorboys SSR1-SSR2-SSR2.5-and SSR3. If anybody knows anything about this please post. P.S. I don't want this thread to be going crazy like the last post about Chemical Guys so lets be nice.
 
I just found out somethin interesting. Chemical guys lazer buff and scratch remover which is the same color as Poorboys SSR 2.5 contains silicones and wax while SSR2.5 does not. I found this out at chemical guys and autogeeks websites.
 
Laser Buff isn't SSR2.5. It's more of a production product, something that you can use to get a trashed car decent in an hour or so via rotary. It's not really aimed at Autopians, but its a great one-step buff for the pro. I'll probably be picking up a gallon sometime soon, as I've seen more and more customers with pretty rough finishes who don't want to spend the 75-125 for a full 3-step compounding.
 
series1 said:
Sorry to bring this up and ask you guys this but has anybody tried any of their compounds. Here is the website that shows the ones I'm talking about http://chemicalguys.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=PCWCCP&Category_Code=COM The only reason I ask this is because I heard their similar to poorboys SSR1-SSR2-SSR2.5-and SSR3. If anybody knows anything about this please post. P.S. I don't want this thread to be going crazy like the last post about Chemical Guys so lets be nice.
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The problems come in when there is an attempt of direct comparison to another product line. Please try to discuss CG's products as CG's products and nothing else.



You are asking about the CG's compound lineup so let's stick to that. There's no need to try to decide if it's the same as a PB's product or not. It won't make it any better or worse.



Thank you for your cooperation.
 
I understand JDookie. In that case has anybody ever tried these products and had good experience with it cause for the price it's a pretty good deal.
 
Hi JDookie, just to clarify. I thought it is pretty normal here to compare products from different companies ? Its just like people would like to know how PowerPolish performs as compare to Optimum Polish.



In fact my friend is going over to US next week and I am actually thinking to post and make an enquiry which product in CG is closest to PB SSR2.5 so that I can ask him to bring some back. So just to confirm am I violating any rules to make such an enquiry ?
 
I have no problems making comparisons between different manufacturers. Dont we compare Meguiars #80 and #83 vs SSR 2.5, vs 3M etc. As long as the threads don't turn into a flame fest I think we should have discussions on different products. :nono
 
Thanks for clearing up, in that case I would really need some input from fellow Autopians here who have tried CG compound and can share which product come closet to PB SSR2.5 ?
 
Gen2 said:
Thanks for clearing up, in that case I would really need some input from fellow Autopians here who have tried CG compound and can share which product come closet to PB SSR2.5 ?
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What other lines of products have you used besides the PB polishes? Do you polish in the sun? and is that important to you? Are you using a PC or a Rotary? Knowing these kind of answers can also help people make a recommendation. :D
 
I have used IP, #83 and 3M PI3 RC. Sometime I have no choice but to polish in the sun. I use both rotary and a PC.



Some of the paint defects I faced have to go a few passes with the existing products I have and sometimes many passes. Personnally I have not tried the PB SSR2.5 but one of my friend did and his comment on SSR2.5 is pretty good but he has run out of it. So that's the reason why I am trying to find more details regarding CG compound or polish, any product which is similar to PB SSR2.5 and would like to give it a try.
 
As far as I know of I haven't seen a direct comp between the two and there are only = to 1,2,3 there is no 2.5 level I have seen someone asking if you mix 2 and 3 but if you ask me that might not work but i'm not a chemist and I'm not an expert on abrasives. I have not had luck with the pB polishes and I'm a IP,FP, Big O guy. But in a pinch I have 2.5 ,2,and 1 incase i can't get out of sun.
 
Pats300zx said:
I have no problems making comparisons between different manufacturers. Dont we compare Meguiars #80 and #83 vs SSR 2.5, vs 3M etc. As long as the threads don't turn into a flame fest I think we should have discussions on different products. :nono
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I agreee with Pats300zx, it is only natural to compare one product to another. I think trying to claim that one product IS another w/o hard evidence is where the mods take issue. Am I correct?
 
I am not going to compare, but I will tell you one thing, I bought the Chemical Guys CGC-1 and CGC2 way before anyone had even started talking about the Chemical guys and I have used them over the years with great results. The Compounds are professional grade top Quality. I have tried many products from "Various" companies and I can tell you one thing many smaller companies sell products that claim they have (No Silicone or Waxes) when in fact they do, I receive mislabeled products as samples all the time.. I have used the CG Laser Buff Compound on many vehicles and I have yet to be disappointed,.



themightytimmah is correct, and as always well educated. (hats off to you) the product cuts your work time in half and is perfect for someone who doesn’t want to buy all 3 compounds. I would say it is great product, not to be compared because I use 1-3 gallons a week and have had many years of comparison under my belt. Some advice, if you need a Silicone Free Polish product for lighter jobs as a finishing product or followed by a sealant they have an extreme all in 1 polish that is very nice too…
 
Gen2 said:
Hi JDookie, just to clarify. I thought it is pretty normal here to compare products from different companies ? Its just like people would like to know how PowerPolish performs as compare to Optimum Polish.



In fact my friend is going over to US next week and I am actually thinking to post and make an enquiry which product in CG is closest to PB SSR2.5 so that I can ask him to bring some back. So just to confirm am I violating any rules to make such an enquiry ?
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Just like Pat said, we have no problem with comparing products to one another. The problem comes in when someone uses the term "IS" instead of "IS LIKE". This forum is all about detailing discussions of all kinds, and all discussion is welcome just as long as it stays civil and respectful.....again, like Pat said.



Now, this all being said, you are comparing CG's products to PB's products and nobody has said anything about the two products being the same. Quite a few members have noticed that the products are similar, but nobody has come up with any kind of proof that they are the "same" so when you are looking at CG's products, you aren't guaranteed to get the same quality products you are getting from PB's just because they look the same. We *know* PB's products are awesome, whereas the CG's products are new to most of us, and have yet to prove themselves to the community so be careful when choosing. :2thumbs:
 
JDookie said:
Just like Pat said, we have no problem with comparing products to one another. The problem comes in when someone uses the term "IS" instead of "IS LIKE". This forum is all about detailing discussions of all kinds, and all discussion is welcome just as long as it stays civil and respectful.....again, like Pat said.



Now, this all being said, you are comparing CG's products to PB's products and nobody has said anything about the two products being the same. Quite a few members have noticed that the products are similar, but nobody has come up with any kind of proof that they are the "same" so when you are looking at CG's products, you aren't guaranteed to get the same quality products you are getting from PB's just because they look the same. We *know* PB's products are awesome, whereas the CG's products are new to most of us, and have yet to prove themselves to the community so be careful when choosing. :2thumbs:
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Well said JDookie. I couldn't agree more. This is a great community and there is an abundance of products to choose from. I'm sure many know it all ready, but you can get some excellent deals with some of the other detail supply lines like Auto Magic, Car Brite etc. if gallon sizes or larger is what a person is looking for as they are very similar to Chemical Guys product line. Plus many times a local distributor is available to purchase the product from. The main thing is to find a product you are happy :) .
 
5STARDETAILING said:
I am not going to compare, but I will tell you one thing, I bought the Chemical Guys CGC-1 and CGC2 way before anyone had even started talking about the Chemical guys and I have used them over the years with great results. The Compounds are professional grade top Quality. I have tried many products from "Various" companies and I can tell you one thing many smaller companies sell products that claim they have (No Silicone or Waxes) when in fact they do, I receive mislabeled products as samples all the time.. I have used the CG Laser Buff Compound on many vehicles and I have yet to be disappointed,.



themightytimmah is correct, and as always well educated. (hats off to you) the product cuts your work time in half and is perfect for someone who doesn’t want to buy all 3 compounds. I would say it is great product, not to be compared because I use 1-3 gallons a week and have had many years of comparison under my belt. Some advice, if you need a Silicone Free Polish product for lighter jobs as a finishing product or followed by a sealant they have an extreme all in 1 polish that is very nice too…
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I'm glad to hear someone has tried laser buff. Have you worked with cars that have a lot of swirls or scratches and used laser buff with good results? Does it just fill swirls or does it remove them?
 
Thanks for the advice and clarification. The reason why I still have not make any order for CG's products is I like to hear more from the experience Autopians before making the jump. But until now it seems like there isn't any product in CG that works similar to SSR2.5 and if that's the case might have to get my friend to bring back a bottle of PB SSR2.5 instead.



Anymore comments or product experience to share before I make the order ?
 
series1 said:
I'm glad to hear someone has tried laser buff. Have you worked with cars that have a lot of swirls or scratches and used laser buff with good results? Does it just fill swirls or does it remove them?
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Laser buff does a great job on medium-heavy oxidation and swirls/scratches. It cuts fast and removes (not covers) . If any light ultra fine scratches are left behind(which I have rarely come across) but do occur sometimes on black vehicles, I finish the job with 3M finishing Glaze(Silicone Free) IF needed I [Sometimes follow that with a premium glaze or wax depending on job and customer]. When I really want to make the paint stand out and time is an issue(meaning I have to rush) The CG EXTREME ALL IN 1 POLISH is my first choice, a true polish that leaves a deep shine. It cleans up the finest scratches but is so mild..... No Silicone, No Wax Simply amazing..... . This is the only product I have yet to find anything to compare too. Seeing as how most of the jobs I have been getting are high end vehicles that are not heavily oxidized and have just minor swirl marks and "cheep towel" scratches.



At first when I saw the price of some of the products I was unsure of the quality. I have been a long time user and it takes a while to convince me of quality. After talking to many detailers, and our Sister CO. Detailing Spa location who have also been using the same Chemical Guys products we have for over 3 yrs…..I can tell you the quality is Grade A. I have not tried all the products but the ones I have, I am very happy with. The Extreme Pro-Polish or the All-In-1 have really cut my cost and time in 1/2 while really delivering unmatched results. At heart I have always been a 3M product :2thumbs: lover so I will admit I still buy a lot of 3M products as well. Manufacturers are always a great choice when searching for products for proffessionals and enthusiasts as well. :hifive:
 
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