CG Citrus wash killed NXT

LazerRed1

LazerRed1

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Washed my daughter's car with my new CG Citrus Wash and it killed the beading of the wax.

Noticed it imediately on the hood. No more beads, just sheeting. Kinda ticked me off cause I just waxed it a month ago and it was beading nicely before the wash.



Used 1/2oz to 2 gal. of the wash. I will say that I washed my car which has FMJ and had no problems, so I suspect it's more the lack of durability of the NXT rather than the wash, I just didn't want to re-wax so soon.



Plan is tonight to wash hers again with the CG at the stripping rate and re-do with FMJ.



Is this a problem with CG on all waxes but not sealants or just the NXT?
 
Maybe the Citrus wash left something behind to sheet the water off. Some washes do that...it's actually a good function.



Try lightly dry-buffing the paint with a soft MF. If that makes no difference, try QDing the finish before you do something more drastic. :D
 
I used CG citrus wash on cars that are going to be polished, clayed, paint cleansed, etc because it is a strong wash. I don't use it for maintainence washes.

Great product.
 
Alfisti said:
Maybe the Citrus wash left something behind to sheet the water off. Some washes do that...it's actually a good function.



Try lightly dry-buffing the paint with a soft MF. If that makes no difference, try QDing the finish before you do something more drastic. :D
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I'll try this. Good thought.
 
My strong opinion is that the oils of NXT washed off with the Citruswash, and the only thing left behind was the actual protection. NXT is said by some to have poor burabilty because the look and beading only last a few weeks or a month. NXT has tons of oils, and I have noticed that after all that is gone what is left is a perfectly good layer of protection that instead of beading, sheets. Yea I know, how can you tell when its gone. Well there is a difference in sheeting between a car thats protected and an unprotected car. Water just sits on it longer when its not protected. If what you miss is the nice look and gloss, use the NXT QD after the wash or Booster wax.
 
joyriiide1113 said:
My strong opinion is that the oils of NXT washed off with the Citruswash, and the only thing left behind was the actual protection. NXT is said by some to have poor burabilty because the look and beading only last a few weeks or a month. NXT has tons of oils, and I have noticed that after all that is gone what is left is a perfectly good layer of protection that instead of beading, sheets. Yea I know, how can you tell when its gone. Well there is a difference in sheeting between a car thats protected and an unprotected car. Water just sits on it longer when its not protected. If what you miss is the nice look and gloss, use the NXT QD after the wash or Booster wax.
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I think I have some Finishing Touch I could try.
 
LazerRed1 said:
Washed my daughter's car with my new CG Citrus Wash and it killed the beading of the wax.

Noticed it imediately on the hood. No more beads, just sheeting. Kinda ticked me off cause I just waxed it a month ago and it was beading nicely before the wash.



Used 1/2oz to 2 gal. of the wash. I will say that I washed my car which has FMJ and had no problems, so I suspect it's more the lack of durability of the NXT rather than the wash, I just didn't want to re-wax so soon.



Plan is tonight to wash hers again with the CG at the stripping rate and re-do with FMJ.



Is this a problem with CG on all waxes but not sealants or just the NXT?
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Thanks for the head's up on NXT. I was considering getting some since I read it had polymers in it. I've had no durability problems with Klasse SG w/ Pinnacle souveran over it.
 
joyriiide1113 said:
My strong opinion is that the oils of NXT washed off with the Citruswash, and the only thing left behind was the actual protection. NXT is said by some to have poor burabilty because the look and beading only last a few weeks or a month. NXT has tons of oils, and I have noticed that after all that is gone what is left is a perfectly good layer of protection that instead of beading, sheets. Yea I know, how can you tell when its gone. Well there is a difference in sheeting between a car thats protected and an unprotected car. Water just sits on it longer when its not protected. If what you miss is the nice look and gloss, use the NXT QD after the wash or Booster wax.
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i agree. i use NXT on my 03 avalanche. garage kept, never been driven in rain. after a few washes over 2-3 month time period (this car has 13,000 miles and is going on 4years old) i notice the same. although the "real beading" is gone it is obvious that it is still protecting. a light QD and the POP is back along with the beading. there is no reason to continually "wax" this vehicle. it's protected, i know! :grinno:
 
Haven't used Citrus wash but it sounds like a powerful soap. Maybe its too acidic and took some of the wax off?
 
jimmie jam said:
i agree. i use NXT on my 03 avalanche. garage kept, never been driven in rain. after a few washes over 2-3 month time period (this car has 13,000 miles and is going on 4years old) i notice the same. although the "real beading" is gone it is obvious that it is still protecting. a light QD and the POP is back along with the beading. there is no reason to continually "wax" this vehicle. it's protected, i know! :grinno:
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Its protected from what? You dont let it out lol
 
I absolutely love Citrus Wash, I use about an ounce to make a 5 gallon bucket and wash both cars at once.



I cannot say it strips wax though, but it's powerful stuff if not diluted properly. I am running Pete's '53 on my truck and P21S on the Explorer and no issues.
 
JBM said:
Its protected from what? You dont let it out lol
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you're not going to believe it but it gets "let out" more that two of my other cars! :bat :rofl



(if it makes you feel better my DD is a 2001 caddy with 71k on it) :woot:
 
I woosed out and went ahead and hit it with another coat of NXT. Car lives in Chicago and a little more protection certainly won't hurt.
 
IMO, NXT is killed by almost any wash, its even weaker than my carnauba beauty waxes and its a synthetic, which you would think would last longer...



It does look nice for a sealant though, I will give it that. But I will never use it on main parts of a car again, it is used for customers with chrome rims now, I LOVE the way it looks on chrome, try it!
 
wash n gloss has a glossing agent in it that is left behind when rinsing...it aides in drying and preventing water spots...probably why you got a lack of beading...that and nxt sucks as far as durability....... :)
 
NXT doesn't stand up to washing too well in any case. I love the appearance, just not the durability. For me, though, NXT sheets right from the beginning. Forget beading, water just sheets straight off. After a brief thunderstorm I've seen my car practically self-dry.
 
jimmie jam said:
i agree. i use NXT on my 03 avalanche. garage kept, never been driven in rain. after a few washes over 2-3 month time period (this car has 13,000 miles and is going on 4years old) i notice the same. although the "real beading" is gone it is obvious that it is still protecting. a light QD and the POP is back along with the beading. there is no reason to continually "wax" this vehicle. it's protected, i know! :grinno:
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How does this POP and beading somehow magically reappear after you apply your QD? Don't you think your QD could be the reason for this? And this is on a car that's driven about 3,000 miles a year, so this car is sitting in that garage a LOT. If the beading and look is gone already in such a short period of time on a garage-kept vehicle, how are you happy with this product protecting your car when it's sitting outside?



Anyway, for the OP I don't think the CG Citrus wash killed NXT. NXT committed suicide the moment it knew you were going to give it a wash. It's too bad NXT has no durability because its looks are amazing.
 
It does look good. I may have to locate a good detailer in the Naperville area to give it a good wax job in a couple months. Car won't be back to my place till Thanksgiving and I know the NXT won't last that long.
 
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