CarPro Reload alternatives

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Eaglesfan2006

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So I’m on my first bottle of reload, but am close to running out. I have mixed reviews on it. Gloss and ease of use is awesome. It’s hydrophobic properties not so much. I’ve applied after putting on polish with a DA. let it sit over night, and wipe down with some Eraser and finally apply reload - lasted maybe 1-2 months.

I’m looking for a better product that has more sheeting/beading properties to it then reload does. My mom currently uses Adams gloss and guard and it works better than reload. I personally don’t like CG or Adams products.

What other options are out there?

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Eaglesfan2006 said:
So I’m on my first bottle of reload, but am close to running out. I have mixed reviews on it. Gloss and ease of use is awesome. It’s hydrophobic properties not so much. I’ve applied after putting on polish with a DA. let it sit over night, and wipe down with some Eraser and finally apply reload - lasted maybe 1-2 months.

I’m looking for a better product that has more sheeting/beading properties to it then reload does. My mom currently uses Adams gloss and guard and it works better than reload. I personally don’t like CG or Adams products.

What other options are out there?

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DPC Armor
Gyeon Can Coat
Mothers CMX
HydroSilex Recharge or Marine
TAC Moonlight

I bought my first bottle of Reload about one and a half months ago, since the recent releases of DPC Armor and Mothers CMX, I wish I hadn`t purchased the Reload. However, since I have that bottle of Reload, I have to use it, I cannot come to throwing it away. From Apex Detail`s reviews of the recent "spray on coating" reviews, TAC Moonlight and Mothers CMX seem the most coating like.
 
Tacs moonlight, gyeon cancoat, Adams spray coat9h, and possibly the mothers CMX are light forms of ceramic coating. The 1st 2 will have 20% to 25% sio2 (assuming Adams mere same, not sure aboutCMX). Reload has around 5% and is more of a sealant with sio2 in it and came to being as a ceramic coating maintenance product. The moonlight and cancoat will give you 6-12 months of hydrophobic properties and protection depending on your climate. Spray on and wipe off just be sure to not sit on paint too long. In the latter category their are tons. Gyeon cure is a popular one although I hear a lot about streaking or diluting it down with water. I passed. I’ve used hydrosilex recharge and in the NW, with proper application (3 layers 5 days apart) I got 3 months of solid beading and didn’t need to be topped off but I’m not one to wait till all durability is gone
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(This was after 3 months)

DPC armor is around 10% sio2 and is dilutable making it more versatile. Never used.

The two I’ve decided to use are Polish angel cosmic spritz (crazy expensive but awesome stuff) and shine supply Clutch. Clutch is around 10% sio2 but recommended to wipe on and leave for 15 mins to hours to “bond” I think it’s got great gloss and hydrophobics but only on the vehichle couple of weeks.

Kamikaze overcoat (expensive) and IGL PREMIER also awesome products and loved by many.

You can find info on any of these by just using search and looking up by name. Not too much info on Clutch or DPC armor.

Plenty of offerings from Autogeek brands (the Blackfire sio2 I hear around most.

My recommendation for ease and simplicity if not willing to use full on ceramic coat, gyeon Cancoat. Couldn’t find a bad review about it. Maybe top with one of the lighter spray toppers to maintain every few months. Just my 2 cents. Have fun and enjoy whatever you use.


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I’m going to take this opportunity to maybe help the OP while helping myself. I see two categories, coating lites (higher SiO2 content and lasting up to 6+months) and SiO2 Spray sealants (lower SiO2 content, lasts maybe weeks to 2 months, used as more of a refresher or booster. I’ve done my best to categorize some popular choices below but am not guaranteeing accuracy nor have I used them all. I hope feedback comes back if anyone disagrees. I’m not including the rinse off products.There’s obviously not a clear boundary between the two categories, so those that are really grey to me, I have noted as such. I also included a few Polish Angel sprays that have plenty SiO2/TiO2 but also contain carnauba. I’m sure there’s many products I missed, so feel free to respond with those for the OP!

Coating Lites:
TAC Moonlight
Gyeon CanCoat
IGL Premiere
Mothers CMX (too early to be sure)
PA Viking Spritz (grey area)
PA Cosmic Spritz (grey area)
Kamikaze Overcoat (grey area)

SiO2 Spray Sealants:
PA High Gloss (grey area)
PA Carnauba Arts sprays (contains carnauba)
PA Rapiwaxx (contains carnauba)
PA Presto (contains carnauba)
CarPro Reload
CarPro Elixir
Gtechniq C2V2
22ple VS1 Final Coat
Mckees 10 Minute Paint Sealant
Blackfire SiO2 Spray
Wolfgang SiO2 Spray
Pinnacle SiO2 Spray
Blackfire Coating Booster
PBL Coating Booster
PA Presto
PA Sprayduster Active (may not belong here)
PBL Coating Detailer (may not belong here)
CarPro Ech2o (1:20; may not belong here)
 
If you`re looking for hydrophobic happiness, Kamikaze Overcoat. PA Cosmic Spritz is just a bit behind that, has a bit more `bling` in appearance. 22ple VS1 is very nice as well, bit slicker than the others. IGL Premier very good as well.

In before the Beadmaker hype...fun stuff but water behavior lacking.

As far as classifying them, the only true `coating lite` products in my mind are Gyeon CanCoat (the original coating-lite), TAC Moonlight, Mothers CMX IF it holds up...and I`ll abstain on IGL Premier as its original intention was a stand-alone I believe and it is one heck of a product used in that fashion but not sure if it`s a coating or not.

All the others, in my admittedly addled mind, began as toppers/boosters/complimentary concoctions that later morphed into stand alone`s through updated product descriptions and labeling. I think that all started gaining momentum when HydroSilex first arrived with a label stating it was a `coating`.

The spray and rinse SiO2 products like Gyeon WetCoat, Nanolex Washcoat, HydroBlue are an entirely different product class to me, more akin to SiO2 fortified shampoos like Gyeon Bathe+, McKees SiO2 Wash and similar. Kinda like the `ol Wash-n-Wax shampoos with gloss enhancers and polymers mixed in to car wash soap.

For all the claims coming out with these new SiO2 sprays ("Revolutionary...", "Only product of its type..." and similar) well, Gyeon`s been doing it for quite a while with CanCoat and until you topple the champ, it`s all just marketing.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
If you`re looking for hydrophobic happiness, Kamikaze Overcoat. PA Cosmic Spritz is just a bit behind that, has a bit more `bling` in appearance. 22ple VS1 is very nice as well, bit slicker than the others. IGL Premier very good as well.

In before the Beadmaker hype...fun stuff but water behavior lacking.

As far as classifying them, the only true `coating lite` products in my mind are Gyeon CanCoat (the original coating-lite), TAC Moonlight, Mothers CMX IF it holds up...and I`ll abstain on IGL Premier as its original intention was a stand-alone I believe and it is one heck of a product used in that fashion but not sure if it`s a coating or not.

All the others, in my admittedly addled mind, began as toppers/boosters/complimentary concoctions that later morphed into stand alone`s through updated product descriptions and labeling. I think that all started gaining momentum when HydroSilex first arrived with a label stating it was a `coating`.
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I can agree with your assessment of coating lites, and it’s not like these “categories” matter, it’s just something I like to do to keep the many products out there organized in my head and to remember comparables. With that being said, I would keep IGL in my coating lite category as it’s description states it’s a water based silica coating, and at least the Autopia description talks a lot about being compatible as maintenance for coatings. The durability is great from what I hear too. I will move the PAs and Kamikaze out of lites and into SiO2 sprays... definitely some of the prettiest and hydrophobic regardless of my made-up categories!

Coating Lites:
TAC Moonlight
Gyeon CanCoat
IGL Premier
Mothers CMX (too early to be sure)

SiO2 Spray Sealants:
PA Viking Spritz
PA Cosmic Spritz
Kamikaze Overcoat
PA High Gloss
PA Carnauba Arts sprays (contains carnauba)
PA Rapidwaxx (contains carnauba)
PA Presto (contains carnauba)
CarPro Reload
CarPro Elixir
Gtechniq C2V2
Hydrosilex Recharge
22ple VS1 Final Coat
Mckees 10 Minute Paint Sealant
Blackfire SiO2 Spray
Wolfgang SiO2 Spray
Pinnacle SiO2 Spray
Blackfire Coating Booster
PBL Coating Booster
PA Presto
PA Sprayduster Active (may not belong here)
PBL Coating Detailer (may not belong here)
CarPro Ech2o (1:20; may not belong here)
 
For me if you are looking for beading:
Can Coat, but a bit finicky
Kamakazi Overcoat, but a bit expensive
22 PLE Final Coat
IGL Premier, 6 month Lite Coating with great beading
Feynlab Ceramic Spray Sealant--great price but have not tested beading yet. Very slick. Claims 6 month protection.
 
If it not has to be a spray protection. I would add Polish Angel Master Sealant with the prep with esclate lotion you get a very great look on most paints. For maintance and top it up a little you can go with PA Rapidwaxx or PA High Gloss or both to mix it up every month or so.

You mentioned you had a polish on over night. What polish was that?

Great listing of different Sio2 products above. Would add Tac System Quartz Max. Quartz Max is very like the first version of reload if not even the same. That did many like the Reload first version. And Tac System was the manufacture for Carpro coating products until they started their own line of products in 2015 IIRC. The rumor says they did or still do products for Gyeon too and maybe some of the Carpros coatings. I am not hundred procent certain that they manufactures for them still. But many of their products is very good and at a good price. They have also started to release new abrasive technology that claims to be very effective. I have the Tac System Refinish Ultra which is a one step compound that can cut p600 sanding marks out on soft to medium hard paints. They just released the Refinish Ultra Plus which is another new abrasive technology that is for hard clearcoats. They also have a sealant application like Sio2 product like Moonlight that is called Ceramic Coat which seems to be in the 6 months longevity range.
 
SWETM said:
If it not has to be a spray protection. I would add Polish Angel Master Sealant with the prep with esclate lotion you get a very great look on most paints. For maintance and top it up a little you can go with PA Rapidwaxx or PA High Gloss or both to mix it up every month or so.

You mentioned you had a polish on over night. What polish was that?

Great listing of different Sio2 products above. Would add Tac System Quartz Max. Quartz Max is very like the first version of reload if not even the same. That did many like the Reload first version. And Tac System was the manufacture for Carpro coating products until they started their own line of products in 2015 IIRC. The rumor says they did or still do products for Gyeon too and maybe some of the Carpros coatings. I am not hundred procent certain that they manufactures for them still. But many of their products is very good and at a good price. They have also started to release new abrasive technology that claims to be very effective. I have the Tac System Refinish Ultra which is a one step compound that can cut p600 sanding marks out on soft to medium hard paints. They just released the Refinish Ultra Plus which is another new abrasive technology that is for hard clearcoats. They also have a sealant application like Sio2 product like Moonlight that is called Ceramic Coat which seems to be in the 6 months longevity range.
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I used CarPro essence (believe it was extreme gloss)

That alone gave a great shine a lasted from September up until recently. Being a beginner I was happy with that product.


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Eaglesfan2006 said:
I used CarPro essence (believe it was extreme gloss)

That alone gave a great shine a lasted from September up until recently. Being a beginner I was happy with that product.


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Awesome!

If you want to continue useing essence. The coating lite products listed above is very good on it. Some also like the essence twins essence topped with essence plus and then maintance with something like Carpro Reload. And don`t be afraid of useing a full blown coating like CQUK 3.0. The new version says to be easier to apply. Just top it if you will sometimes or let it do it`s thing and wash with carpro reset or Ech2o.
 
SWETM said:
If it not has to be a spray protection. I would add Polish Angel Master Sealant with the prep with esclate lotion you get a very great look on most paints. For maintance and top it up a little you can go with PA Rapidwaxx or PA High Gloss or both to mix it up every month or so.
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I really wanna do a car longterm with Master Sealant + Rapidwaxx. It has such a nice look (and feel) to it and in the limited time I had with the car done with it, beading and water shedding was superb. So, so easy to use as well.

Have a new car coming, will be fully wrapped in PPF. Not coating it and pondering using Master Sealant and/or Rapidwaxx to maintain.
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BudgetPlan1 said:
I really wanna do a car longterm with Master Sealant + Rapidwaxx. It has such a nice look (and feel) to it and in the limited time I had with the car done with it, beading and water shedding was superb. So, so easy to use as well.

Have a new car coming, will be fully wrapped in PPF. Not coating it and pondering using Master Sealant and/or Rapidwaxx to maintain.
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Yeah I`m eager to use the Esclate Lotion and Master Sealant combo that I have at home on my car when spring comes. Did not been able to apply it the last year was frustrateing to say the least LOL. Since I have a Kia cee`d SW with a silver metallic paint I went with High Gloss to apply it down the road. Think it will make a great combo on a silver metallic paint. And hopefully I can share the finished results in mars or april. Maybe I need to do it a couple of sections at a time. The nerve damage in the lower back and neck has been acting out since autumn. So hope for a little energy and lower pain levels so I can correct it and apply the Master Sealant combo.

Nice to hear that you like it.
 
Mother’s CMX is replacing just about everything in my arsenal of coating maintenance products. I’m getting ready to mix some CMX with ECH2O to make a longer lasting QD. I’ll keep Premier, the Polish Angels, and Overcoat but the rest of the others may gather dust or get donated. Mother’s could have charged twice as much for CMX and it would have been worth it.
 
Updated acuRAS82 categories to add Tony’s suggestion and Feynlab:

Coating Lites:
TAC Moonlight
Gyeon CanCoat
IGL Premier
Mothers CMX (too early to be sure)

SiO2 Spray Sealants:
Kamikaze Overcoat (grey area)
Feynlab Ceramic Spray Sealant (grey area)
PA Viking Spritz
PA Cosmic Spritz
PA High Gloss
PA Carnauba Arts sprays (contains carnauba)
PA Rapidwaxx (contains carnauba)
PA Presto (contains carnauba)
TAC Quartzmax
CarPro Reload
CarPro Elixir
Gtechniq C2V2
Hydrosilex Recharge
22ple VS1 Final Coat
Mckees 10 Minute Paint Sealant
Blackfire SiO2 Spray
Wolfgang SiO2 Spray
Pinnacle SiO2 Spray
Blackfire Coating Booster
PBL Coating Booster
PA Presto
PA Sprayduster Active (may not belong here)
PBL Coating Detailer (may not belong here)
CarPro Ech2o (1:20; may not belong here)[/QUOTE]
 
These are great lists but it’s very difficult to put Overcoat and the PA sprays in the same category as Reload and Quartzmax. The difference is so large. One lasts weeks and the other lasts months. I know we are splitting hairs, but Overcoat and Premier are both durable over 6 months and I feel certain that PA Viking and Cosmic (not HG) would come very close to 6 months.

i feel safe in saying Overcoat, Premier, PA Viking and Cosmic would fall in the Coating Lite category as they last 5X longer than the others in your SIO2 Sealant category. My definition of a Coating Lite is an SIO2 product that lasts 6-9 months on a daily driver. Moonlight and CanCoat are rated at 6-9 months. I agree CMX still falls into the “wait and see” category along with the Adams new spray coating product.
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
These are great lists but it’s very difficult to put Overcoat and the PA sprays in the same category as Reload and Quartzmax. The difference is so large. One lasts weeks and the other lasts months. I know we are splitting hairs, but Overcoat and Premier are both durable over 6 months and I feel certain that PA Viking and Cosmic (not HG) would come very close to 6 months.

i feel safe in saying Overcoat, Premier, PA Viking and Cosmic would fall in the Coating Lite category as they last 5X longer than the others in your SIO2 Sealant category. My definition of a Coating Lite is an SIO2 product that lasts 6-9 months on a daily driver. Moonlight and CanCoat are rated at 6-9 months. I agree CMX still falls into the “wait and see” category along with the Adams new spray coating product.
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The variations in the Sio2 sealant longevity is huge. And agree with you that some is touching the 6 months mark in that range. It`s hard to seperate them in define categories though. Many are made for the purpose of being boosters or topper the coatings. Then they can be applyied as a stand alone LSP too. But the intentions where so you would revive the coating when the hydrophobic caractics is degraded a little. Useally this happens 7-10 months old coatings that lets say their performance is around 80-90% . And you boost them up some percents with monthly or every 3 months or so.
 
SWETM said:
The variations in the Sio2 sealant longevity is huge. And agree with you that some is touching the 6 months mark in that range. It`s hard to seperate them in define categories though. Many are made for the purpose of being boosters or topper the coatings. Then they can be applyied as a stand alone LSP too. But the intentions where so you would revive the coating when the hydrophobic caractics is degraded a little. Useally this happens 7-10 months old coatings that lets say their performance is around 80-90% . And you boost them up some percents with monthly or every 3 months or so.
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I think of toppers in deferent categories as coatings. I personally agree with putting the PA’s, overcoat, and premier in topper categories as topping was main idea for creation. The coating “ lites” all have higher sio2 content and apply more like a coating. I would categorize as “premium” toppers maybe?


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Great idea on putting this list together. Some of the products commonly used to “top” coatings don’t have any Sio2 in them though; stuff like beadmaker, which I love, is a polymer sealant. Same with Reload. I wouldn’t put Rapidwaxx or Ech2o on the list. Ech2o is a waterless wash / QD and is isn’t advertised as having any protection, just gloss enhancement. As for Rapidwaxx, I’m pretty sure that is a carnuba product.
 
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