Car-Pro has a MAJOR problem, urgent help needed! (Leather coating)

Wow - what a bummer for all those that put it on light colored leather... :(
Sorry this had to happen...

Can't imagine how awful that would look on light colored french stitching, all over some seats... What happens if the cleaner damages the stitching? Now you have another problem...

I have no desire to put Pro anything inside a vehicle - especially when I see things like this happen...

I'm just sticking to Known, Proven, products that have been out for years/decades, that have never caused issues..
Dan F
 
Stokdgs said:
Wow - what a bummer for all those that put it on light colored leather... :(
Sorry this had to happen...

Can't imagine how awful that would look on light colored french stitching, all over some seats... What happens if the cleaner damages the stitching? Now you have another problem...

I have no desire to put Pro anything inside a vehicle - especially when I see things like this happen...

I'm just sticking to Known, Proven, products that have been out for years/decades, that have never caused issues..
Dan F
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That's my new thought on leather after seeing these issues too. While I love how well these coatings protect against dye transfer, for now I'm going back to regular cleaning and something like Leather Masters Protection Cream.
 
Alot of these so called leather interiors are truly not these days. These materials are coated with a special paint that feels and looks like leather and can fool anyone. I don't like using these type of coatings due to the fact one can run into serious problems and can cost mucho dinero ( If you don't have insurance ). I like my old stand by products like Blackifre, Leather Masters, Leather Therapy, Connolly Hide Care ( Older one ) and Leatherique.
 
RaskyR1 said:
Keeping this product out of the hands of the average consumer is a good idea IMO. while I'm sure most detailing enthusiast could handle it just fine, especially most regulars on here, but then again I've seen some pretty messed up consumer paint coating jobs so that may not be entirely accurate. The big issue here is unlike paint where you can polish of the coating when you mess up, leather is not so forgiving.
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That was my next thought Rasky. Most of us can fix paint, but fixing leather is a different ballgame. If I could do it all over again I would stay clear of any interior coating. Only one way to learn though. I am just glad I never tried it on a customers vehicle. I would be up ****'s creek without a paddle.
 
Me personally, I stock up once a year with AGO's 20% off no exclusions and pick up a 12 pack of the 1 liter red oil. Comes out to 20$ a bottle, can't get better protection then that.
 
TroyScherer said:
Unfortunately this is why I stayed away from this product from the beginning. And I even have black seats. If it could discolor a light seat it can have the same yellowing effect on black over time.
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I agree. I used the first F & L product. It was fine until it was time to remove it. I ultimately did find a way to remove it.

This is why I'm not crazy about coatings in general. The manufacturer makes the surfaces fairly durable to begin with. I think just cleaning and reapplying a regular protectant on a regular basis is better than a set it and forget it coating in the long run.

Automobile leather and paint are not designed to have an additional lifetime or long term coating applied. While "extra protection" seems like a no brainer on the surface - the question I always ask is, "can it ever be 100% removed without damaging the original surface"??? Factory coated leather and paint are somewhat porous and uneven. How can you be sure the coating is ever 100% removed?

Also, if it's yellowing on light colors - it's yellowing on all colors. Meaning, the coating will alter (permanently?) the look of the leather to some degree. I believe the same thing happens with paint coatings and UV oxidation after they are installed for months to years. How can you ever ensure that coating is 100% removed??!


****please support trans-species humans.
 
After researching Leather I don't know, 16 years ago, I found the people that acquire the leather and tan it, color it and sell it to the auto industry and other industries that use leather such as furniture manufacturers, aircraft industry, etc,...

They make their own leather cleaner conditioner that is so easy to use - wipe on, wipe off..
Never leaves a mess, never greasy, absorbs into the leather, leaves a slight matte finish if anything, leather is softer and more supple in some cases, its perfect...

It has no smell to it, but when used the leather will release its own smell sometimes, like it should.. It then smells - well, natural leather smell..

This product works especially great on BMW M car leather - I love it !

The company is called Spinneybeck, out of Getzville, NY !

These guys have over 50 years experience in leather - all aspects of leather - and they really know what they are talking about..

They told me when I called them 16 years ago, to try to stick to water for cleaning, don't use harsh cleaners, kitchen cleaners, don't get the PH off, and try out their own product which they use on the hides they sell...

They told me leather should last a lifetime if just kept clean and treated occasionally so it doesn't get too dry...

Here is a link to the product I have been using for 16 years - https://www.spinneybeck.com/index.php?/shop/product/finished-leather-cleaner-conditioner-protector..

Good luck with that car-pro issue...
Dan F
 
I still have some left over leather coating. I am going to coat my leather computer chair and see how that fairs. It is black leather.
 
I had the same thing happen on a new Lincoln I did last fall with very light interior. AG says great for light interiors, car pro says no. I did the entire interior first coat. Went back for the second coat, the LAST spot I did yellowed. Explain that? Even if I did test and nothing happened, I get done, boom, yellow. I used APC to remove it from the seat.

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Coating products for leather seats is something I have stayed away from. I always wondered what happens when the coating eventually wears off? Do you try to reapply it? How do you even out the wear areas? Too many possible problems, especially when there are so many good protection products on the market.
 
I'm glad I read this thread. I was considering applying it to my mother-in-law's new Murano's interior.

I hope the exterior paint coating I used, regular CQuartz, doesn't yellow on her white Murano.
 
I've been using Cquartz leather for over a year now and never had this problem. I've used it on all types of colors, and different cars. Haven't done a Volvo yet so ill be weary. I wonder if it had anything to do with prep work? Also I do agree that this application should be reserved for professionals or people with previous experience in detailing.

Jaddie said:
I'm glad I read this thread. I was considering applying it to my mother-in-law's new Murano's interior.

I hope the exterior paint coating I used, regular CQuartz, doesn't yellow on her white Murano.
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You'll be fine! I've never seen any coating yellow on paint.
 
Imo coatings are best left to the pros who have experience doing hundreds of cars. In most cases where the average joe consumer coats his car and thinks he's done a fine job is usually kidding himself and finds out a few weeks later he didn't get the satisfaction he expected.
 
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