Can oxidation/haze reappear after 1 day? (pic included)

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goceltics34

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I am still working on polishing my jeep with the pc. After finally finishing with the hard stuff (SSR 2.5 w/ orange LC pad) I got to polishing a section of the side yesterday using SSR 1 with a white LC pad. Upon completion of this section yesterday afternoon, I inspected the finish and it looked great. This afternoon I took the car out of the garage and it appears that either the oxidation slightly reappeared or it got hazy overnight. What could it be? I have heard from others that oxidation does reappear, but overnight? Here are a couple of pictures so you can see what I mean. You can barely tell the difference so look closely, but there definitely a difference.



What needs to be used in order for the oxidation and or haze to be prevented? :nixweiss



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Thanks for your help! :xyxthumbs
 
I don't think the lighting is adequate enough to diagnose your problem. I could be wrong though.



It sounds like the haze you speak of probably was always there. You simply changed the environment of the vehicle (i.e. the lighting) which allowed you to notice the defect. Lighting changes everything!



JJ
 
I looked at the car the same time of day yesterday and I definitely notice a difference. Also last week I did the other side and when I finished it, it looked very nice. I looked at that side today and it appears to be "faded" a bit. Could it be that over time the oxidation and or haze reappears?



If you look at the two pictures closely, you can see a split down the center of the page between the two sections.
 
I'm not familiar with the LC pads. What type of pad is the white? Light cut, finishing, polishing?



Judging by the first picture, I suspect it is hazing left behind from SSR2.5 and that you should have worked SSR1 longer, used multiple passes, and/or a more aggressive pad.
 
The white pad is a polishing pad. Maybe I need to make a few more passes but I could swear that the finish looked compete yesterday. Back to the drawing board...



BTW.... The finish yesterday WAS with the white polising pad.
 
Your not polishing agressively enough. You're probably fooling yourself in the shop because it looks better. When you get it out into harsher light, you then see it still doesn't look all the way good yet.



I would go with a more aggressive polishing compound myself.
 
I got a bit freaked out when I looked at my pad and it had some red coloring on it. Oh S*&T! I think I may have been taking some paint of the car! Could it be that the jeep is single stage paint? The most aggressive I went was SSR 2.5 with orange LC light cutting pad at a speed of 6 and moving verrrrry slowly doing several passes. Could this be the case? What to do next? I didn't think I could take paint off with a PC. Kind of makes me want to stop completely and cut my losses short. What do you all think?
 
Yes, you were removing paint. Old dead oxidized paint. That's what polishes do, and that's what you want to do. Get the old dead oxidized paint off and let the fresher paint underneath shine.
 
The older YJs don't have a separate clear coat. You might be dealing with a single stage. What year/model is your jeep?
 
If the paint is not fully polish, ie some oxidation left it will reapear after 1 day. I say go over it one more time with SSR1 if you satisfied with the defect removal, or use 2.5 if you want more defect removal. A PC does not remove too much paint so don't be scared as single stage paint is pretty thick. One of the other reason is that you also need to apply a glaze and wax to renourish the paint and protect it from oxidation.
 
If all the Oxidation is not removed , the oxidation will seem to reappear as the ozidized paint "soaks up" the polish. You probably have very deep oxidation and might need either a very aggressive polish or a new paint job... :(
 
It is definetly a single stage paint job. I did a jeep a couple weeks ago that had the same problem. Make sure your pads arent loading up. Clean them when they are looking red, and hit the section again with 2.5. You shouldnt be getting any hazing using a polishing pad with 2.5. I think your pad is loading up and not letting the pad and product to work together. Your first pass on the left was probobly your first pass, then the pad loaded up with dead oxidized paint, therfore only moving polish on the surface. Then when you removed the polish, and went with your LSP it looked good. Now you see paint that wasnt polished as well as other spots.



Hope this helps!
 
splattj said:
The older YJs don't have a separate clear coat. You might be dealing with a single stage. What year/model is your jeep?
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The jeep is a 1994 Jeep Wrangler. I am now assuming that there is no clear coat. Every time I polish it, my pad turns red. I know some of the coloring comes from the product but red? This has really scared me and questions my future use with the PC. Please ease my concerns. How should I approach the rest of the job?
 
There should be no worries. This will happen with a single stage paint job. You are not hurting but helping the paint by removing oxidation. More red will show on the pad until the oxidation is gone. Dont let it scare you.
 
Man some of you guys are very knowledgeable! Thanks for all the info.



I have still been at it with the PC and SSR 1. It seems like I can't get a uniform finish on the paint. It looks good in the garage after I polish then I take it out in the sunlight and look at it at the right angle, and it looks uneven. It's hard work to get a nice even finish. Maybe I am trying to get it to look too perfect. Nobody else even notices it but me. I might have to just accepts some imperfections, especially with a single stage paint job.
 
Make sure your pad is clean and doesnt have any build up in it. This would be dry polish and or paint particles. Keep it clean and go over agiain with SSR1 with the PC set on 4.5 or 5. Work it slooooowwwwwwww. Like 1 ince per second. Only work a 2x2 section at a time and inspect your work. Find the process that produces the best results and stick with it.



Dont get frustrated. It takes time to get a Perfect finish. But it is achieveable.
 
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