Can get car worth 18,500ish

smokeum said:
I think a 04 gtp would be the best bet if you dont want a V8.They are the fastest car in its class, even the 04 maxima.They also cost alot less.The new ones also Have forged pistons.They have 260 hp and i think 280 pounds of tourqe.There are some that have already ran high 14's completely stock.I just dont understand why people want to buy a 20,000-25,000 foreign car and then go put another 5 grand in it to get it in the 13's.If i had 25 grand to spend id buy a 03-04 cobra or a 2001-2002 Trans Am.A stock 03-04 cobra is cappable of running high 12's and a T/A is cappable of low 13's.Actually id probably find a nice T/A and mod the hell out of it and have a 20,000 11 sec car.Also parts for a domestic car is gonna be half the price of a forein car.
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Why? Because the 6 speed '02 Maxima runs mid to high 14s in the mid 90s and has a nicer interior than any Pontiac on the market. The new GTP is a major leap forward and really quick, but the whole dash area is a mismash of colors and styles. They really need to look at the GTO interior and redo the GTP interior that way.



A 75 shot on a 6 speed 255 hp Maxima should get you easy 13's btw. ;)



That having been said, if I was looking for a fast weekend car, I'd get another Chevelle. :xyxthumbs
 
not as macho as the chevelle...but for a kid out of HS...what about scion TC add the factory SC and it ain't a 1/2 bad car for the money
 
OK rice a maxima out.Buy a used 2000 model and put a 75 shot on it.Your still not gonna be in the 13,s,The GTP i bought still books for 23,000.Its not NEW!!Buy any car even new take it home And the depreciation will drop 5,000.A 90 maxima isnt gonna be in the 14,s stock.If you dont know then find out before you go qouting numbers.
 
smokeum said:
The GTP i bought still books for 23,000.Its not NEW!!Buy any car even new take it home And the depreciation will drop 5,000.
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Buy a Honda and you will learn different!! I have a 8 year old Integra that has depreciated about the same as your car(real depreciation of your car is actual window sticker - what you paid or $10,000). Remember that Blue Book mean NOTHING if you can buy a car this new for such a low price as the trade in value IS affected by all the incentives that are available on slow selling cars! I live in the car capital and there aren't many GP's around unless you check the rental fleets. You didn't get a discount or anything like that, you just didn't get beat as bad as the last guy.



I have also seen how GM cars age and it ain't pretty! The Maxima is a better bet over the long run for reliability and overall integrity. IIRC, there is also a SC package for the 3.0/3.5 motor too.
 
smokeum said:
I think a 04 gtp would be the best bet if you dont want a V8.They are the fastest car in its class, even the 04 maxima.They also cost alot less.The new ones also Have forged pistons.They have 260 hp and i think 280 pounds of tourqe.There are some that have already ran high 14's completely stock.I just dont understand why people want to buy a 20,000-25,000 foreign car and then go put another 5 grand in it to get it in the 13's.If i had 25 grand to spend id buy a 03-04 cobra or a 2001-2002 Trans Am.A stock 03-04 cobra is cappable of running high 12's and a T/A is cappable of low 13's.Actually id probably find a nice T/A and mod the hell out of it and have a 20,000 11 sec car.Also parts for a domestic car is gonna be half the price of a forein car.
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First off there's more than straight line times. GTP the fastest car in it's class? Not so sure it's faster than the current Maxima, Altima 3.5, Accord V6 or the new Legacy http://www.modernracer.com/archives.html
 
smokeum said:
OK rice a maxima out.Buy a used 2000 model and put a 75 shot on it.Your still not gonna be in the 13,s,The GTP i bought still books for 23,000.Its not NEW!!Buy any car even new take it home And the depreciation will drop 5,000.A 90 maxima isnt gonna be in the 14,s stock.If you dont know then find out before you go qouting numbers.
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There are so many things to argue about, but the only thing I'll mention is that "90's" was most likely a trap speed, not the model/build year.



Congrats on the purchase, hope you like the car.



Jason
 
SpoiledMan said:
I have also seen how GM cars age and it ain't pretty! The Maxima is a better bet over the long run for reliability and overall integrity. IIRC, there is also a SC package for the 3.0/3.5 motor too.
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I don't know that I'd agree with that. Nissan/Infiniti are not cutting-edge quality. I've also been outraged more than once at the cost of parts for my little 200SX jelly bean.



On things like the variable length intake, just be sure you are prepared for the possible cost of repairing such things down the line, unless you won't be keeping it that long. Technology has a place for sure, but more isn't always better (and more moving parts doesn't always = technology).



No one is going to be able to tell you what you should get for your money but you. We all like different cars. I'd probably go for as much Corvette as I could buy, as that's what I did when I got my first car. You might try asking more specific questions where the answer isn't so much about personal preference.



That said, whether you get new or used might depend on your feelings about each, and on what you expect to do with the car and how long you plan to keep it. If you'll be driving it for 10 years, depreciation matters less, and also you might want a vehicle that's larger for when you (or your family) get larger, etc. :)
 
BoxsterCharlie said:
I was all gung-ho toward the new econo-box for you until you started talking about mods.



I blew a lot of money on my Integra. It was fun, but at the end of the day I had no resale on my investments--and I was still driving an Integra.



Given that as IndigoGTI says the used cars are a much better value (I'd say MUCH), the only thing your mother doesn't want is for you to have unexpected repairs.



So this is easy for me to figure out. Buy a used car of proven performance (anything from a Mustang to an M3) and budget yourself for the inevitable repairs instead of expensive mods. Think about it, would you rather throw a new clutch on an 8-year old Corvette or a Nissan which didn't have a beefy enough clutch to handle your mods?



Here's an example for you, and its not a Porsche (my bias :) ): http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6168&item=2488531188&rd=1
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:xyxthumbs
 
Aurora40 said:
I don't know that I'd agree with that. Nissan/Infiniti are not cutting-edge quality. I've also been outraged more than once at the cost of parts for my little 200SX jelly bean.
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I'll agree with Nissan quality not being the best overall but it's still better on a bad day. My dad's 300ZX TT is 12 years and 95,000 miles old and has been trouble free and he's got some SICK upgrades on it too.
 
smokeum said:
If you want a very slow car then go ahead and get that.Put a big wing on it and a huge fart can.Also be sure to get a few stickers because then everyone will know you mean buisness.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
 
I second the Scion tC suggestion. It's a nice coupe with a Camry engine and an available supercharger from TRD (coming soon). It comes pretty well loaded, a panoramic moonroof is standard equipment! A manual is less than $17k, to me, that's a bargain.
 
From what I heard that supercharger for the tc bumps the price up over 20 grand. Without it performance is very simialr to Mazda3 but not as practical overall in my opinion. It's not a bad car for something new in this price range nevertheless. Spec-V will edge either of these out for initial bang for the buck though. They all have nice things about them so I think you gotta drive all 3 and see what's best for you.



There's been some decent used car suggestions -- a mid 90's Vette, a newer Mustang GT or Maxima. No offense by leaving the GTP off this list but by reading the original post I see he mentioned the tranny and the weight of the Spec-V as postivies and the 3600+lb 4speed auto is almost like the opposite idea -- so I wonder how much that's getting away from what Rudamous had in mind? Anyway, a few more used options that came to mind are the Srt-4 or Wrx.
 
smokeum said:
OK rice a maxima out.Buy a used 2000 model and put a 75 shot on it.Your still not gonna be in the 13,s,The GTP i bought still books for 23,000.Its not NEW!!Buy any car even new take it home And the depreciation will drop 5,000.A 90 maxima isnt gonna be in the 14,s stock.If you dont know then find out before you go qouting numbers.
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Reading compreshension > you



The 255 hp Maxima is a 2002 like I pointed out. I did not mention any of the '90 models. I've seen several magazine tests that show the 6 speed version well into the 14s, along with the 5 speed version of the Altima which has 10 less horsepower.



BTW, how is adding a 75 shot to a Maxima riceing it out? Maybe if I had said NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSs or suggested a huge wing, yes, but real performance mods are not rice.



If you like your GTP, fine. The 3.8 V6 is about as bulletproof as an engine can get and after driving a 2000 GTP, I agree they are pretty quick even with 240 hp. I just am not a fan of Pontiac's current interior design.
 
tkr128 said:
I second the Scion tC suggestion. It's a nice coupe with a Camry engine and an available supercharger from TRD (coming soon). It comes pretty well loaded, a panoramic moonroof is standard equipment! A manual is less than $17k, to me, that's a bargain.
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I'd agree too. I saw one earlier today and it is a really good looking little car. Much nicer than the first two Scions.
 
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