Bug Squash vs. Salt

Alrightythen
I'll rinse then use BS next time.
I'll only do 1 section of the car to see if it makes a noticable difference from the untreated sections.
 
I think the point that's being alluded to here is that for heavy winter road salt and sand, it should be used at full strength, thus the car should be rinsed before applying. During the Bug season, although rinsing would be a good idea, the diluted Bug Squash will start working on bugs and light tar without pre-rinsing..
Did that make sense :wacko: :confused: :ohmy:
 
Bump...

Anybody know if using Bug Squash full strength will affect my sealant/wax protection? :detective
 
The Pit said:
Bump...

Anybody know if using Bug Squash full strength will affect my sealant/wax protection? :detective

My neighbor and I both use it, and haven't noticed any drop off.
 
Hmmm. I'm not sure about using Bug Squash for salt removal. :dontgetit

In another thread, Steve says...

Poorboy said:
....Also Bug Squash is a great pre-wash for stripping if used 1:1 or Full strength

If that's the case, I don't think I'd use BS to remove salt. I need my LSP to last through winter:exclaim:

Can you clarify this issue, Steve. :confused:
 
I could be wrong here, but...


BS is probably no more than a stronger or more concentrated version of a car wash. I've used it before and it doesn't haze any metals or paints in the sun (some wheel cleaners do). Its a strong detergent, in the end.

LSP's act very differently depending on their base. For instance, Dawn will strip carnauba wax easily, but will not strip a sealant that easy. Sealants tend to be stronger against harsher elements in my experiences. I'm not sure if I will be using Bug Squash to remove salt on my vehicles, but I would like to do a test on a panel treated with a sealant vs. wax, then testing BS on them. I think this would help.

In the end, I treasure John's advice. If his says he hasn't seen the slickness or beading drop off, then I trust his word. Plus, how much better do you think salt sitting on your paint is? I'm not sure, but I would say its probably more harsh than most strong detergents.
 
Well, I definately want to keep the salt off. Just questioning if this is a good way to do it.

If Bug Squash is "just" a detergent, then perhaps this is a good way. On the other hand, if it contains degreasers that will strip wax, maybe its not a good way (for me, that is). I want to remove the salt, without removing my wax. I was hoping Steve could shed some light on the subject, since he knows product contents.:help:
 
The Pit said:
Well, I definately want to keep the salt off. Just questioning if this is a good way to do it.

If Bug Squash is "just" a detergent, then perhaps this is a good way. On the other hand, if it contains degreasers that will strip wax, maybe its not a good way (for me, that is). I want to remove the salt, without removing my wax. I was hoping Steve could shed some light on the subject, since he knows product contents.:help:

It's not a detergent or degreaser ...on heavy salt/ sand it will not remove your LSP's as mgm2003 has already stated from his own uses. If used on a lighty dusty car during the summer, it might start to wear down your LSP's ...it is activated by water and dirt/salt ..the dirtier the vehicle the less it should be diluted.
 
Poorboy said:
It's not a detergent or degreaser ...on heavy salt/ sand it will not remove your LSP's as mgm2003 has already stated from his own uses. If used on a lighty dusty car during the summer, it might start to wear down your LSP's ...it is activated by water and dirt/salt ..the dirtier the vehicle the less it should be diluted.

Thanks. :bigups I'll give it a try next time we get dumped on and they pour out the road salt.

Follow-up question... for summer bug removal, is it more effective when diluted with soft water vs. hard water (i.e. higher sodium content in softened water)?
 
The Pit said:
Thanks. :bigups I'll give it a try next time we get dumped on and they pour out the road salt.

Follow-up question... for summer bug removal, is it more effective when diluted with soft water vs. hard water (i.e. higher sodium content in softened water)?


I really don't know, but I will ask the chemist ...I'm pretty sure it won't make a huge difference...
 
Poorboy said:
I really don't know, but I will ask the chemist ...I'm pretty sure it won't make a huge difference...

I like to use distilled water to mix up BS, S&W, and QEW (for QD). This keeps any residue/film on the paint to a minimum.

As far as your water source (hose)..... hard water is never any fun!

I also use latex gloves when washing in the winter for a few reasons:

* It's like another layer of skin and it protects your hands from drying/cracking.

* If you don't get your hands wet before you put on the gloves, it keeps them MUCH warmer.

* I like to mix a few oz. of white vinegar (hint, hint) in my wash bucket during the winter (it's a VERY effective cleaner). Vinegar on bare hands tends to burn a bit.
 
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