GearHead_1
Long Time Member
Sheesh Already!!!:crazy2: :wall :notme::yikes:
Unless Aliens have sworn you to secrecy, SPEAK!
Unless Aliens have sworn you to secrecy, SPEAK!
Buffer Madness
- Thread starter Billd55
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GearHead_1
Long Time Member
There is nothing wrong with pumping a product unless you are not a site sponsor and profit by reselling it. That's what we do here, if you have a favorite product, great! We talk about products and procedures. You've already told us your procedure replaces the need for tried and proven practices. If you use a specific product as part of your service, super. Enlighten us or take it elsewhere because this is becoming a joke. :rofl
It's really pretty simple, start like this: "hi, my name is GearHead_1 and I use an acrylic sealant, it's called Klasse." There, now I've gone and done it. Hey wait, I feel so much better, the load is lifting. I should have done this a long time ago.
JaredPointer
COME AT ME BRO
It's just that we've heard all this before... Acrylic paint sealant.... buy it here.... never polish....
Look, what you do may be great for your niche of customers. But slapping on some "miracle paint protection product" isn't exactly what most of us here would consider detailing. If it works for you, great. We are all just expecting the push of some product like Glare, Xzilon, Vapor Wax or the like because we that have been on the detailing forums see it every other month or so.
Acrylic Paint Sealant =/= detailing.
I am not making a dime on this. The product is called AT-5 sealant.You
can get two types, I would purchase the high flash because it does not dry as fast, and easier to work with.Mention my name Bill Daley from Naples Fl., so they know what you are asking for XXXXXXXX (Now the part in red is where a post becomes SPAM). A gallon runs around $30 plus shipping. They will tell you how much experience I have with the product. The number is 1-800-XXX-XXX and company name is XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX located in XXXXXX, XX. Ask for XXXX if he is there.
Bill D
EDIT: Now, this is not singling you out. This is what we would do with any post that gives this type of information because the vendor is potentially receiving revenue without paying for the advertising. Should someone wish to try the product they can contact you privately by way of IM. We would like to hear about the procedure you use with this product and what can be expected with its use. Most would appreciate this type of discourse.
I'll readily admit that this wasn't the product I expected you to name, forgive me for assuming wrongly. I'm interested in anything more you would like to tell us regarding AT-5.
-GH
can get two types, I would purchase the high flash because it does not dry as fast, and easier to work with.Mention my name Bill Daley from Naples Fl., so they know what you are asking for XXXXXXXX (Now the part in red is where a post becomes SPAM). A gallon runs around $30 plus shipping. They will tell you how much experience I have with the product. The number is 1-800-XXX-XXX and company name is XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX located in XXXXXX, XX. Ask for XXXX if he is there.
Bill D
EDIT: Now, this is not singling you out. This is what we would do with any post that gives this type of information because the vendor is potentially receiving revenue without paying for the advertising. Should someone wish to try the product they can contact you privately by way of IM. We would like to hear about the procedure you use with this product and what can be expected with its use. Most would appreciate this type of discourse.
I'll readily admit that this wasn't the product I expected you to name, forgive me for assuming wrongly. I'm interested in anything more you would like to tell us regarding AT-5.
-GH
Jared
Look, I cannot figure out. I am not telling you to slap on my miracle product on
a vehicle. What I do involves alot more than that. I did a 62 ft Ocean that was layered with wax build up and it requires many hours of buffing to to clean the
gel coat to the point were I could apply the sealant.Unless you start with a clean
surface,you are wasting your time. Detailing is a passion for me, and you do not have clue about my skills. I use a method to remove salt off of gel coat that does not use
compound. Detailing a boat that is in salt water is not for a novice detailer. So,
you can question the product, but not my skills.
BillD
Look, I cannot figure out. I am not telling you to slap on my miracle product on
a vehicle. What I do involves alot more than that. I did a 62 ft Ocean that was layered with wax build up and it requires many hours of buffing to to clean the
gel coat to the point were I could apply the sealant.Unless you start with a clean
surface,you are wasting your time. Detailing is a passion for me, and you do not have clue about my skills. I use a method to remove salt off of gel coat that does not use
compound. Detailing a boat that is in salt water is not for a novice detailer. So,
you can question the product, but not my skills.
BillD
Beemerboy
Just One More Coat
NO one questioned your skill, just this mysterious product that took you several posts to name, and then by the admission of using your name, its sounds like spam
I would really like to hear how you remove salt deposits on boats without using compounds.
to me that's would be good to know, can you explain that?
I would really like to hear how you remove salt deposits on boats without using compounds.
to me that's would be good to know, can you explain that?
GearHead_1
Long Time Member
Am I reading the description of this product right? Does the AT-5 stand for Acrylic, Teflon, 5 year?
Hmm, Ive never had a wax build up on any of my vehicles, so why would I only need to buff to remove the WAX. My and MY customers run daily drivers that NEED correction. My 88 F150 had 4-5 coats of Mothers Ca;ifornia Gold back when it was new, did it last eons nope, no way! Ive never dreamt of wax build up on boats or anything else for that matter. If mty trucks had a wax buildup Id be estatitic. Even sealants dont last the eons some boast about. Am I happy buffing the clearcoat on what I own now, Yes because I see a better finish!! RANDAL the IOWA FARMER.
JaredPointer
COME AT ME BRO
Going back to your earlier postings, you said pretty much that buffing/polishing is not needed and that a clearcoat with spiderwebbing and wetsanding marks can't be saved. I just can't believe someone with years of experience will come out and say that. Couple that with a product you are praising - 5 year and Teflon..... Most of us know that Teflon has to be baked on at temps that would be hazardous to the paint and that no type of wax/sealant will last 5 years. Heck, there's clearcoat paints that don't last five years.
I'm not questioning your skills - I am just curious as to why you'd come to a detailing board and start telling us how tried and proven methods aren't needed if you'll start using this miracle sealant. Like I said before, we have heard if before, numerous times, and it always comes to the point where the poster throws out ridiculous claims, telephone numbers and website links about some "acrylic paint sealant."
Guys, In Iowa heat is not a problem, but down here in Florida it is .
90 plus days with 90 percent humity will melt any wax in days.
I realize the thing about Teflon, and it takes extreme temps to
bond it to a surface, but the company put it in the name because everyone knows the name. There is a very small amount in the
product which does nothing.
If someone gets enjoyment putting on many coats of wax on their
vehicle,well that's your choice. Although, I feel it makes more sense
to apply something that I know will protect my paint for one year,
and give me a shine that I could shave with. People call me back
because of the AT-5 and how I apply it, not because they have
money to waste. I give them a fair price compared to a dealership,
and come to their home or business.
My system works for me. Have you ever considered why Mothers and the others have a million types of waxes on the market. Some sell for $7.00
and others much more than that. Please, explain to me like a third grader
what makes the more expense wax worth $100 a can or more. Because,
someone will pay it.
Guys, this is not cancer research we are talking about here. Everyone
is here to find info that will help keep there baby looking new for many
years and not spend a fortune doing it. I feel an acrylic sealant fits
that requirement.
BillD
90 plus days with 90 percent humity will melt any wax in days.
I realize the thing about Teflon, and it takes extreme temps to
bond it to a surface, but the company put it in the name because everyone knows the name. There is a very small amount in the
product which does nothing.
If someone gets enjoyment putting on many coats of wax on their
vehicle,well that's your choice. Although, I feel it makes more sense
to apply something that I know will protect my paint for one year,
and give me a shine that I could shave with. People call me back
because of the AT-5 and how I apply it, not because they have
money to waste. I give them a fair price compared to a dealership,
and come to their home or business.
My system works for me. Have you ever considered why Mothers and the others have a million types of waxes on the market. Some sell for $7.00
and others much more than that. Please, explain to me like a third grader
what makes the more expense wax worth $100 a can or more. Because,
someone will pay it.
Guys, this is not cancer research we are talking about here. Everyone
is here to find info that will help keep there baby looking new for many
years and not spend a fortune doing it. I feel an acrylic sealant fits
that requirement.
BillD
Jared
I would like to address my comment about your paint problem. First, sometimes it
is possible to correct the problems you stated, but most of the time they cannot.
Clear is only so thick, and you state that you have wet sanding marks plus swirl marks.My guess is that you did these things to correct another problem. If wet sanding and buffing did not solve the problem, well, I'm out of ideas.
BillD
BillD
I would like to address my comment about your paint problem. First, sometimes it
is possible to correct the problems you stated, but most of the time they cannot.
Clear is only so thick, and you state that you have wet sanding marks plus swirl marks.My guess is that you did these things to correct another problem. If wet sanding and buffing did not solve the problem, well, I'm out of ideas.
BillD
BillD
Beemerboy
Just One More Coat
Bill,
Asked this earlier but can you explain the removal of salt deposits on a boat without using compounds and or a buffer?
The process is of great interest to me.
Asked this earlier but can you explain the removal of salt deposits on a boat without using compounds and or a buffer?
The process is of great interest to me.