Bought some more Duragloss Products today....

Pinti...



Jerry said the SMR can be used by hand...To tell you the truth he said all their paint finish products were designed for use by hand...as the general car care person does not own buffers ..polishers...



As far as doing the PBA and any of the sealants..I do them by hand..I get better control of it and get it places the PC can't...the products just glide on and you can really get them thin...



As far as the Track Claw line..I never touched base on them with Jerry or Bill...but they did emphasize the 105 was their most durable and wettest sealant yet..and they have new products in the making for next year...Newer type sealants...but still in testing stages now...



And yes the Rain..we are flooded here....this rain has bben the best test for Duragloss yet..it is holding up great...shedding rain like a duck..still shines nice..slickness has diminished some..but to be expected after 8 weeks...like I said before..I'm Sold...going on 35 days of rain since May1 st



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mg031 said:
Damn, I caught the DG itch from you guys and ordered #105 Total Performance Polish, Aquawax and the Polish Bonding Agent. Came to my doorstep yesterday. Interesting at the Z comparisons...the #105 polish consistency / color looks just like Z2Pro but the smell is different. The bonding agent seems similar to Z1 but i have never used Z1.



I am interested to see how good this stuff works. For the price and shipping i think it is worth it to try out.
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Do a split panel 105/Z2pro comparison to see how close or different they really are. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have some common ingredients as there are only so many sources for the base polymers.
 
I have a lot of detailing supplies i'd like to use up before switching to all duragloss products, but i'm totally in love with aquawax and FCS. I think i might just end up using my other products on other peoples cars. None of my friends will be buying car care products for quite some time. I'll buy a bunch of sample bottles. oh, you need to wax you car? Here, take some of this.
 
wannafbody said:
Do a split panel 105/Z2pro comparison to see how close or different they really are. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have some common ingredients as there are only so many sources for the base polymers.
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Yeah, most good products have more in common than differences i suppose.



I will do a comparison on the same panel or do each half of the car with each product..not sure yet but i definitely plan to use the duragloss this weekend. can't wait. :)
 
Brandon1 said:
I bought the #105 polish today and I hope to use it tonight on some customer cars I have. I am using the heck out of some AW!!!
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Let us know all you can about the 105! ... vs. previous products also ...
 
LynchMOB said:
OMG!!!!!!! Zaino products are re-packaged Duragloss products. :secret



LMAO!!! How's that for starting a rumor. :bolt









:rofl :laugh: :rofl :laugh: :rofl :laugh: :geez
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I just bought the duragloss wash this weekend, after doing a zaino detail. When I opened the wash, I thought I was opening another zaino product. They smell exactly the same. I know that does not mean they are the same, but hmmmmmmm........ :confused:
 
Ive tried to keep my car the best I could, and most people I know expect my car to look top notch, and most people I know never compliment my car when its clean , they expect it. Since I began using Auqawax thats all changed, I now get compliments all the time about my paint looking like glass.
 
p.s.



for the second time I used Aqua Wax and left it as is.

and for the second time debris and dust had adhered after less than 8 hours.

Last time it was a thick film of soot after a 40 mile drive.

This the slickness in the paint was gone after another two hour drive and an over night outdoor parking.

I'm not kidding no BS, next morning I ran my fingers across the paint and it felt 'dry' and somewhat coarse, after less than a full day.



I shot the car with FK 425. I was hesistant and more inclined to wash it all over again. But

I thought two washes in two days was excessive. The 425 brought back the slickness imediately

and by the next morning after another 40 mile drive it was still free of the soot film.



No doubt about it: FK 425 is a must have for Aquawax.
 
racingbeat said:
p.s.



for the second time I used Aqua Wax and left it as is.

and for the second time debris and dust had adhered after less than 8 hours.

Last time it was a thick film of soot after a 40 mile drive.

This the slickness in the paint was gone after another two hour drive and an over night outdoor parking.

I'm not kidding no BS, next morning I ran my fingers across the paint and it felt 'dry' and somewhat coarse, after less than a full day.



I shot the car with FK 425. I was hesistant and more inclined to wash it all over again. But

I thought two washes in two days was excessive. The 425 brought back the slickness imediately

and by the next morning after another 40 mile drive it was still free of the soot film.



No doubt about it: FK 425 is a must have for Aquawax.
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I used the AquaWax after washing with ONR on Saturday and after about a 60 mile highway drive (about 3 hours later) I had a film of soot on the car. Wasn't sure what happened since this was my second time using the combo and no problems the first time...
 
racingbeat said:
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for the second time I used Aqua Wax and left it as is.

and for the second time debris and dust had adhered after less than 8 hours.

Last time it was a thick film of soot after a 40 mile drive.

This the slickness in the paint was gone after another two hour drive and an over night outdoor parking.

I'm not kidding no BS, next morning I ran my fingers across the paint and it felt 'dry' and somewhat coarse, after less than a full day.
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I disagree. FK is absolutely not needed, and AW is more than capable of standing on its own.



Strange that after a 1,400+ mile trip to Florida, I noticed none of the problems you speak of. In fact, the car stayed clean and dust free nearly the entire trip. It has been about 1.5 months (including the road trip) since my last AW application, and I have not even washed the car since then, and my AW application still beads up with tight beads during rain, and is still maintaining nice slickness and gloss. The car is a little more dirty, but still looks great.



Maybe you're using products that are interfering with the performance of the AW? Maybe you are creating some static charge with your buffing towels that is attracting the dirt layer? Are you shaking the AW before use? :nixweiss
 
TigerMike said:
I disagree. FK is absolutely not needed, and AW is more than capable of standing on its own.



Strange that after a 1,400+ mile trip to Florida, I noticed none of the problems you speak of. In fact, the car stayed clean and dust free nearly the entire trip. It has been about 1.5 months (including the road trip) since my last AW application, and I have not even washed the car since then, and my AW application still beads up with tight beads during rain, and is still maintaining nice slickness and gloss. The car is a little more dirty, but still looks great.



Maybe you're using products that are interfering with the performance of the AW?
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All I used was the AW so that's not it in my case. Maybe I used too much this time? How much do you usually spray per panel?
 
I typically give each panel (fender, door, bumper) a couple good squirts in a long sweeping motion for coverage, maybe 4 for the hood area. Then, I sometimes have immediately gone over the last coat with another coat, and never had any problems.



Have you noticed any static buildup after buffing? This is a common source for dust attraction with some toweling immediately after applying LSPs.
 
TigerMike said:
I typically give each panel (fender, door, bumper) a couple good squirts in a long sweeping motion for coverage, maybe 4 for the hood area. Then, I sometimes have immediately gone over the last coat with another coat, and never had any problems.



Have you noticed any static buildup after buffing? This is a common source for dust attraction with some toweling immediately after applying LSPs.
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I guess it could've been static buildup but I used a PakShak WW for drying and a PakShak MF for buffing. It was a thin film of grey after being at highway speeds for most of the trip. I think I used less AW the first time so I'll try using less the next time. I was kind of a in a hurry so I might've over-sprayed...
 
I can't wait to get the DG wash. I finally found a place here in Toronto that sells it.



With all this talk about it being VERY similar to Z7 and the bang per buck, this might be my new go to for washing.
 
legionofdoom said:
I used the AquaWax after washing with ONR on Saturday and after about a 60 mile highway drive (about 3 hours later) I had a film of soot on the car. Wasn't sure what happened since this was my second time using the combo and no problems the first time...
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I think its the NR not working with Aqua Wax. I washed the car with no rinse and did one full application of Aqua Wax. I used the same batch of towels to top the Aqua Wax with FK 425 and there was ZERO dust after the same drive that produced all the Aqua Wax dust/soot. The same batch of towels were used when the slickness disappeared after only a day of Aqua Wax left bare.



THe paint still beaded after leaving Aqua Wax bare and driving it for a day (less), but

the slickness that I got used to seeing after topping basically ANY product with 425 was not there. The only thing I can think of is that some ingredient in AW doesn't like the Optimum No Rinse when the two are mixed and left alone. Also, I'm looking at it from the perspective of very high level of slickness from 425. But really the paint was bordering on plain coarse the day after the NR + AW.



Cleanliness of paint with bare Aqua Wax and Aqua Wax with 425 on top can not be compared. As for as detracting from the great Aqua Wax shine with 425 atop, there was no visible difference. I've used other product left bare like S100 and Werkstatt Acrylic Jett sealant (curing time) and the paint just didn't stay at the high degree of slickness or cleanliness, sometimes after less than 30 minutes like one windy day after using S100. Ditto for the wheels. The anti static claims from FK are not marketing BS. I am 100% sold.
 
Racing beat, except for the dusting issue, your experiences are mirroring mine exactly. I did my second ONR wash followed by AW yesterday and was really suprised by how much the towel was dragging while wiping the AW. Definitely didn't happen when I washed my car conventionally and first applied the first 3-4 coats. Slickness came back when I QD'd with 425 but not anywhere as slick as when I followed PW with 425.



Also, I just washed my GF's car on Sat using dishwash soap of all things, clayed, and then put on 2 coats of AW. Finish was very slick upon application and there was no dragging while wiping the AW. It must be the ONR doing something funny with the AW.



On the positive side, my black honda has never looked so deep and reflective after about 6 coats of AW and my GF's silver beetle looks incredibly clear and glossy. I guess the number of coats may affect the appearance as my car is taking on a carnauba appearance while the beetle definitely looks more sealant like. Both cars have seen OCW and AW is a much superior product in terms of looks and ease of application IMO.



I'm going to resist topping my GF's beetle as it is a daily driver and sits outside 24/7 to test durability. If it lasts any longer than the month with OCW then I'll consider it a winner.
 
interesting...



Hard to choose which product I like more: the insane ease No-Rinse or the punch of Aqua Wax.

or the stay clean abilities of 425.



My neighbohrs are starting to think I'm nuts or OCD. First they see me 'washing' a Porsche with what appears to them to be just water. Then I spray the whole car with stuff and then 10 minutes later I'm out there spraying it with a different bottle of stuff. If I use FX 100 its three sprays. "look at that OCD weirdo, but damn that car is always clean and shiny".
 
I've used AW after a traditional washes and always have gotten a super slick surface. I agree that something in ONR is negatively affecting the AW.
 
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