Blur in black paint?

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clnfrk

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My brother in law recently put very small scratch (1/4 inch long) in his 997 Carrerra with the hose while washing it. The scratch was hardly noticeable and not very deep at all. After polishing the area with SSR 2.5 and an orange pad on a PC, I noticed a slight blur in the paint. After following up with SSR 1, the blur was almost gone. After trying various polishes, none of which were very abrasive and different pads (only orange and blue) the blur was becoming more pronounced and was getting bigger!



Can someone please help me out? I'm hoping I didn't do the impossible with a PC and burn through the clearcoat. What can be done about this?
 
Some pictures of it would definitely help. The SSR line contains fillers, so the polishes you put on it afterwards may have removed some of the fillers from the SSR products, making the gash appear bigger. Either way, some pictures would really help us figure out what's going on.
 
Yes JD sounds right. I think the same.

I made that mistake several times, forgetting my previous jobs I put too much sweat on certain areas to later panic seeing that any blemish is worsened. After remembering that I had done previous work on those areas I could calm down.



I guess some sort of checklist or "detailing almanac" could be helpful to remember what we did previously and avoid too agressive work on certain parts and areas...



Anyone have such a checklist or almanac in excel etc format ?
 
I wish I could post a pic right now, but unfortunately my brother in law lives about 20 miles away and I won't be able to make it there until at least Thursday. But, there is absolutely no gash in the paint now, Everything is level, except there's that one spot where the blur is. The texture of the spot is slightly different than the surrounding paint. Its kind of like a ghosting in the paint.
 
When/if you've gone through the clear, it will be unmistakable...the blur spot will have a disting edge. And like you said, if you keep polishing it, it will slower get larger. Have him take the car to a good detailer...someone who will be able to recognize what's going on. However, it would be really hard to go through the clear with a PC and SSR2.5, but I suppose it could be done if one got really insensive on a small spot.
 
Here are a couple of pics of the spot...



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Perhaps the cloudiness around the spot is haze, but I'm pretty certain that oval spot seen in the pics is something totally different.
 
Just to be sure I'm "reading" the picture properly, it is a quite large area that is blurry. Correct? If so, it simply looks like compound hazing via PC. Polishing with SSR 1 or 2 and a white finishing pad should remove this...though it could take 5 or 6 really slow passes to do so, as SSR 2.5 can leave a pretty heavy haze on black



To go through the clear, you'd have to polish the area like 15 times (a few passes each time).
 
RAG said:
Just to be sure I'm "reading" the picture properly, it is a quite large area that is blurry. Correct? If so, it simply looks like compound hazing via PC. Polishing with SSR 1 or 2 and a white finishing pad should remove this...though it could take 5 or 6 really slow passes to do so, as SSR 2.5 can leave a pretty heavy haze on black



To go through the clear, you'd have to polish the area like 15 times (a few passes each time).
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Well, the last time I saw the car in person was last night in a garage with not so good lighting. The large blurry area was not even visible at that time. I had the owner of the car take those pics and email them to me so that I could post them here to perhaps find out what is going on with this paint. He had actually mentioned to me over the phone about the larger cloudy area, or hazing that he noticed during the day.



I have detailed this car in the past to remove swirls, so I am familiar with hazing and how to remove it. That large area is not my concern though. The oval blur however is. FWIW, the owner did mention that the spotty area feels slightly smoother than the surrounding paint.
 
Well, it's too hard to see from the pictures to be certain. An experienced detailer (or paint shop) will have to look at the spot, but based on what you are saying and that you are familiar with compounding haze, I fear the worst for your client.
 
ScubaStevo said:
The SSR line actually doesn't have any fillers, so thats not a issue.
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Scuba... i was under the impression that the SSR line had fillers for sure. I stand corrected. I love my 2.5!!
 
ScubaStevo said:
The SSR line actually doesn't have any fillers, so thats not a issue.
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Yea, that's what I thought too. Had to run down to the garage and double check :)



Anyways, if you did that with SSR2.5 with a cutting pad and PC... :wow:



I can see this happening with SSR3 and a cutting pad (orange). But as soon as you step back down to 2.5 with a polishing pad you shoudl've been able to remove it - 2.5 and a polishing pad will take out light wet sanding.



:cool: :nervous2:
 
From what you are explaining about the spot decreasing/increasing in size as you polish it is sounds like yes you burned through the paint. The picture did not help me see what you were talking about, but one thing you can do is when you polished the spot at any point of time did the pad/rag have a diffinate black spot on it? If the pad/rag had any real black pigment on it then yes you burned it. You can still test that spot by hand polishing the spot with a rag and if the rag has black on it is burned. Only test it a little bit, don't use a buffer or spend a lot of time hand polishing you do not want to make the spot worse you only want to check for black paint.
 
It's only polishing haze. Get some SSR1 or FPII and a finishing pad then work the area about three times on speed 5.5. The haze will go away. Then finally, take a deep breath.



P.S. There are no fillers in the SSRs
 
I too have a black 997 and the paint is pretty soft and can be challenging to work with. If you haven't yet, you might want to try either Vanilla Moose or RMG with a finishing pad. The finish appears to be smooth enough and it looks like you may have some "haze" left over from the polish and the fact that you used an orange pad. Assuming the orange pad is light cutting rather than a polishing of finishing pad. It also looks like you may have worked the polish a bit too long?
 
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