blatant autopia myths.....

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i'll start a list of what i feel are some of the blatant myths posted here

1) silicone is BAD

2) polishes with "fillers" or oils are bad

3) NXT or any other product with any amount of specialized cleaners are a CLEANER WAX

4) OTC products are inferior to "specialized private branded products"



Anyone care to add some more? I'm posting this not to start a flame war but rather to say that its time to post accurate info not misleading info:)
 
NXT is a sort of cleaner wax. It's meant to be a one step wax for the average consumer.



I don't think most of those are thought to be true here. There are many OTC products people use (Mother's Billet & Aluminum Polish, GC wash, etc...)



Polishes with fillers or oils have their own purpose, and considering people are going to be doing more than a one step polish, they don't fit in normal regimens.
 
"OTC products are inferior to "specialized private branded products"



I have to happen to agree with this statement. I have tried dozens of OTC products and very few are worthwhile - examples would be NXT soap, Stoner's IG, Eagle One Tire Swipes.



The fact is that boutique soaps and waxes and other chemicals are made and sold by smaller businesses that can use higher end ingredients and do smaller batches or runs for the highest quality.



I certainly keep an open mind, maybe the Michelin tire products will be great for instance, but I like supporting the higher quality product firms like PakShak, Pinnacle, P21S, ExcelDetail, Wayne's, Wolfgang, Sonus, etc. that may not show up at the local Pep Boys.
 
I'm not saying that slightly better products don't exist but rather attempting to hit the "Turtle Wax is junk" and other type of hit and run posts that occur-Mohters products are a good example of some very good OTC offerings for a wide range of users
 
NXT is a cleaner wax.



Lets examine further, it's a wax, it has cleaners, and according to Mike Phillips isn't layerable. Yep, sounds like a cleaner wax to me.
 
Brad- perfect example of an eroneuous post- Mike has stated repeatedly that a second application of NXT will not remove an entire layer of previously applied NXT-if you choose to disagree thats fine but to blatently post the info is unethical
 
BradE said:
NXT is a cleaner wax.



Lets examine further, it's a wax, it has cleaners, and according to Mike Phillips isn't layerable. Yep, sounds like a cleaner wax to me.
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SilverLexus said:
"OTC products are inferior to "specialized private branded products"



I have to happen to agree with this statement. I have tried dozens of OTC products and very few are worthwhile - examples would be NXT soap, Stoner's IG, Eagle One Tire Swipes.



The fact is that boutique soaps and waxes and other chemicals are made and sold by smaller businesses that can use higher end ingredients and do smaller batches or runs for the highest quality.



I certainly keep an open mind, maybe the Michelin tire products will be great for instance, but I like supporting the higher quality product firms like PakShak, Pinnacle, P21S, ExcelDetail, Wayne's, Wolfgang, Sonus, etc. that may not show up at the local Pep Boys.
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I agree 100%. I like the boutique products better,they cater to thr "real" autopian and pro. OTC products have to be kind of "idiot proof" for the average user.
 
SilverLexus said:
very few are worthwhile - examples would be NXT soap, Stoner's IG, Eagle One Tire Swipes.
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Are you saying those products ARE worthwhile, or aren't?

:nixweiss



I think all three of those mentioned products are great.
 
No flame war intended either, but...



Never heard anyone say that polishes with fillers or oils are bad. They may be "bad" if you are trying to provide a base coat for a sealant because of adhesion issues, but never have they been deemed bad because they are just plain "bad." #80 has oils and everyone here seems to love it :nixweiss



A majority of the folks here including professionals use OTC products such as car wash soaps, glass cleaners, all purpose cleaners, dressings, quick detailers, spray waxes, regular waxes, etc... People don't "bash" them at all. People may bash the durability like Gold Class, NXT or Mother's, but not their results. Then again Souveran and P21s durability stinks.



Mike Phillips indicated I believe that NXT was not really layerbale because it has cleaners in it. Correct me if I'm wrong.



I don't know much about silicon to comment. But I wouldn't want my tire treads to be covered in it from a tire shine. Ask Jimmy Buffit who nearly lost it in his Miata on brand new tires.
 
wannafbody said:
Brad- perfect example of an eroneuous post- Mike has stated repeatedly that a second application of NXT will not remove an entire layer of previously applied NXT-if you choose to disagree thats fine but to blatently post the info is unethical
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No more unethical than your "theories" about Zaino, a product which you have never used.
 
wannafbody said:
...but to blatently post the info is unethical
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LMAO! That's a pretty hilarious thing to say. Oh yeah, Brad was "blatently" posting something in an "unethical" way. :rolleyes:



Anything that disagrees with what Phillips says is blatantly unethical? Now THERE'S a good myth....
 
according to Brad E since water is a cleaner any product that contains water must now be considered a "cleaner wax"-give me a break:rolleyes:
 
so here's an unethical post-Zaino is a good product (as long as you put at least 3 layers on your car-the more the better-after all it is protection);)
 
I would not categorize NXT as a "Cleaner Wax" in the tradtional sense like Meguiars #6. But it does contain cleaners. I found this post and Mike Phillips addresses the issue. It's a good read if you go through it in order.



But lets not let this thread turn into this again!!



Does NXT have cleaning properties?
 
This thread is heading in the wrong direction, either get back on topic or I will have to close it.



Keep in mind guys that this a thread discussing *myths* which means there isn't going to be much in the way of *fact* discussed here, so please respect other member's opinions regardless of how it reacts with *your* opinion. Just because you perceive something one way, doesn't mean it is correct or incorrect in any way.
 
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