BlackfireWet Diamond over Blackfire spray sealant ?

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Last time I dropped the car off at the dealer I had to leave it for a few days. I made SURE he wrote on the service statement. DO NOT WASH. Sure enough I got my car back nice and dirty how I left it, I would rather have a dirty scooby than a swirly scooby.



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Sorry to hear about your misfortune Al. Make Herb pay!!!!! He must pay!!! :mad: You may recall my high opinion of Herb's dealerships in the thread you started when you bought the car. Interesting guy, unimpressive dealerships. ;)
 
okay, I've got the greatest idea...



rig your viper car alarm so that it goes off when the car gets wet!!! that'll learn em ;)
 
Whenever I drive by a dealership, new or used, and see guys out along the row of cars with a flat broom or similar implement washing cars down, I wonder why they just don't get it. In this day and age , knowing what we know, you would think they could get with the program.

But I guess "time is money" and these guys don't care as long as no one complains. What I don't understand is...Why is no one complaining?



The answer I assume is few people care as much as we do. We are a very small segment of the population indeed.



On another note, a friend and FordvsChevy webmaster( Ed )picked up a 2002 Camaro SS 2 weeks ago. He brought it by for me to detail, including zaino. The hood had scrapes across it, very visible under flourescent light.Like someone raked something hard across it. I told him I could remove them, but since the car had 112 miles on it, and was just purchased, for him to bring it to the dealer and let it be their problem, since it was delivered to him that way.



Long story short, he went back the other day. The salesman wouldn't help him. His words; "You mean that"? That's nothin'...let me show you what I thought you meant" he takes my friend Ed over to a new black C5 Vette, and shows him a bunch of obvious scratches in it.



Ed asked him if they made a habit of selling new scratched up vehicles, but the guy didn't budge. Said it was considered "normal". That's customer service for ya. Beware, as they not only care for them poorly before they sell them, but won't help you out much afterwards. I will remove them for my friend, they're doable, but honestly...why should a spankin' new car have to have it's paint cut? It just damn well shouldn't. Sorry, had to vent.
 
Guitarman,



I would tell you friend to stop wasting his time with the salesman. Go straight to the general manager of the dealership. If they still don't want to be bothered threaten to file a complaint with the BBB, that usually gets their attention.
 
Thanks Showroom, the story is secondhand from my friend, so I don't know exactly how many others he spoke with, if any. But I will tell him to do that if he hasn't already. Appreciate it. I think because he's young (20) he's getting pushed around and dosen't know enough to make waves yet. Cheers.
 
Guitarman,



I know that feeling of being blown off because of age all too well. I am close in age to your friend and had a similar problem about a year ago. The dealer tried to blow me off, then they got a call from my lawyer (who is also one of my law professors).....now they take me seriously. ;)
 
I plan on taking a full set of pictures prior to any service visits. Its hard to argue with that....



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Last time I took my truck to the stealership I told them specificly not to wash my truck, so the service manager puts one of those cone things with the sign that says ''Do Not Wash '' on my roof, but he couldn't really reach the top so he puts it on the edge, and pushes it in, sliding across my finish. Even when I tell them not to wash, they still find a way to screw me! I wish Sal Zaino had a dealership, Zaino x 10 straight from the dealer!
 
I would have put it on top of his head and plushed it as I saw fit too ;)



actually that is so bad, i don't know what to say.
 
Can I apply Blackfire Wet Diamond over the Blackfire spray sealant ? Or do I have to remove Blackfire spray sealant first. I use the Blackfire spray sealant as a lub for my clay bar.
Thanks for looking
 
That's ok, next time just use a QD when claying. You can still put BFWD on after you wash or polish the car.
 
It won't create any problems (other than the possibility of light streaking IF you over apply the Wet Diamond). The polymers are identical and the solvents are similar so the Wet Diamond is going to 'find where it belongs' in the equation. You shouldn't see any degradation in durability from applying the Wet Diamond second, but that is an expensive clay lube ;)
 
I agree with Todd. That is an awfully expensive clay lube. Use it for what it was meant to be used for. For a clay lube, get some ONR and mix up a bottle at 2 oz. per 1 gallon of water. That is about as cost effective as you can get. You will also have a great product that you can use for a lot of other purposes.

The Blackfire Spray Sealant is a great product that I have used many times, but it is meant to be used as a maintenance product to be used between washes. Apply the BFWD first and top it with the spray sealant. You will love the results.
 
Another question along the same lines, I have been maintaining my BFWD with
HGAS so what must I do to recoat with BFWD or apply the BF midnight sun.
 
Another question along the same lines, I have been maintaining my BFWD with
HGAS so what must I do to recoat with BFWD or apply the BF midnight sun.

I don't think so, I have been putting coats of midnight sun on top of the spray sealant with no problems.
 
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